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All Hell 2
 

This page contains quite of bit of repetition from the first All Hell; but with a difference. It's packaged as a blog that we utilized for a number of the internet forums that we worked with over the years; so you'll see date stamps and post numbers too.
 

 

Hello, and welcome to a lengthy commentary related to the afterlife.

Please regard the purpose of this thread. It's neither a forum nor a chat room; rather, it's a blog; so I ask that viewers restrain their urge to disrupt the flow of my material with apologetics, error-spotting, discussions, sidebars, and/or quarreling and debating, etc.

NOTE: The numbers and comments herein should not be taken to be 100% fact, rather, taken as approximations, speculation, conjecture, and opinion.

Thank You. _

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According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; the majority of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

According to the US Census Bureau: as of July 03, 2021 @ 10:55 am New York Time, the resident population in the United States was approximately 332,483,728 with a death rate of approximately one every 12 seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths were under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,234 of the current daily death rate per 24 hours are adults.

Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,669 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 111 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 55 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.

Using the ratio of 2,669 condemned souls per 332,483,728 population: computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,773,415,024 people, would suggest something like 62,400 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to roughly 2,600 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

Yankee Stadium's football seating capacity is 54,251. At the rate of 2,600 souls per hour, those seats would be filled in roughly 20 hours and 52 minutes. In other words: by 02:52 am tonight the stadium's seats would be maxed if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning.

Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.

The netherworld never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to climate change, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, high school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, storm surges, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, a mission to Mars, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, the price of oil, election fraud, pipelines, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, North Korea's nukes, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, Covid-19, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, LGBT marriage, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or former US President Donald Trump's second impeachment.

If standard Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop. _

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Through me; the way to the eternal city.
Through me; the way to eternal sadness.
Through me; the way to lost people.

Justice moved my supreme maker:
I was shaped by divine power,
By highest wisdom, and by primal love.

Before me, nothing was created
That is not eternal: and eternally I endure.
Abandon all hope, you that enter here.

The Divine Comedy
Inferno: canto 3, v.1-9
by Dante Alighieri

Dante's poetic epic is called a comedy because it has a happy ending as opposed to a tragedy; at least for Dante anyway. The souls he and Virgil pass along the way through the Inferno portion of Dante's odyssey will never, nor anon, have a happy ending; hence the sign above the entrance: "Abandon all hope, you that enter here."

Webster's defines "despair' as: to no longer have any hope or belief that a situation will improve or change. Well; down in the Inferno section of Dante's concept, despair is a way of life. It's likely not much different in the real inferno.

When people first arrive, no doubt they start asking around to find out how long they have to stay there. It must be very devastating to encounter folk who've been languishing in the fiery region of the netherworld since practically the dawn of Man._

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Famed rock guitarist Eddie Van Halen passed away in October of 2020. He was a Roman Catholic. I was one myself for 24 years, so I can say from personal experience, that it's not easy to get into heaven via that version of Christianity.

Well; if perchance Eddie failed to make the cut (not saying he didn't; only saying "if perchance") then he will never again be allowed to even so much as see a guitar let alone pick one up with his hands.

Can you imagine a talented, pioneering musician like Eddie never again allowed to do the one thing in life that he loved the most? I mean never again like as in permanently.

Hell is bad enough for ordinary folk; it must be doubly miserable for creative people: the poets, the painters, the sculptors, the architects, the fashion designers, the authors, the choreographers, the gourmet cooks, the engineers, the scientific geniuses, the explorers, et al.

FYI: According to Luke 16:19-31, people in the netherworld worry about their surviving relatives . Well; Eddie's ex wife Valerie Bertinelli was raised a Roman Catholic too. I've no doubt that if perchance Eddie is down there, he's wishing there were some way to contact Vallerie and let her know where he is lest she follow him right down there.

» Valerie loves to cook. Well; if perchance Eddie's ex ends up down there; she'll have access to enough heat for cooking, but of course no ingredients to work with. _

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Creeping up the blind side,
shinning up the wall
Stealing through the dark of night

Climbing through a window,
stepping to the floor
Checking to the left and the right

Picking up the pieces,
putting them away
Something doesn't feel quite right

Help me someone,
let me out of here
Then out of the dark was suddenly heard:
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Coming out the woodwork,
through the open door
Pushing from above and below

Shadows without substance,
in the shape of men
Round and down and sideways they go

Adrift without direction,
eyes that hold despair
Then as one they sign and they moan

Help us someone,
let us out of here
Living here so long undisturbed

Dreaming of the time we were free
So many years ago
Before the time when we first heard
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Sit down, sit down
As we relive our lives in what we tell you

Images of sorrow,
pictures of delight
Things that go to make up a life

Endless days of summer
longer nights of gloom
Waiting for the morning light

Scenes of unimportance
like photos in a frame
Things that go to make up a life

Help us someone,
let us out of here
Living here so long undisturbed

Dreaming of the time we were free
So many years ago
Before the time when we first heard
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Sit down, sit down
As we relive our lives
in what we tell you
Let us relive our lives in what we tell you

Sit down sit down
Cause you won't get away
So with us you will stay
For the rest of your days.

So sit down
As we relive our lives
in what we tell you
Let us relive our lives
in what we tell you.
Home By The Sea, Genesis 1983; Phil Collins, Tony Banks, & Mike Rutherford

The lyrics of that song are useful for depicting how one of the few thing that some people have to do down in the netherworld to help pass the time is tell each other about their previous lives. There is, of course, nothing to tell about their lives down there since the colloquialism "get a life" is a non sequitur in that place. Nobody has a life; nor any hope of getting one.

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Saturday, June 27, 2010, a 6-month-old baby girl was killed and her mother seriously injured when the pair were struck by a falling tree branch in New York City's Central Park Zoo. The girl's father was taking their picture near the sea lion exhibit when a branch above them suddenly snapped off and fell.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007; nineteen year-old Ramiro Gonzalez was returning home to Nyssa Oregon from a week-end honeymoon in northern California with his bride Idalia asleep in the back seat when their 1997 Pontiac Grand Am hit a cow twenty miles east of Burns. The Pontiac went off the road, through a fence, and burst into flames. Idalia escaped with only minor injuries, but Ramiro died at the Ste. Charles Medical Center in Bend the very next day.

Ramiro and his bride didn't get to live in a home of their own for even one single minute of their marriage-- never had a baby, never joined the PTA, never saved for college, never went to ballet lessons, nor to soccer or little league, never went on family picnics, never took home movies and photos at Christmas, Easter, or birthdays, never went to the beach and built sand castles --no, their entire future, and all their dreams of family life, were shattered in an instant by a lame-brained bovine; and Ramiro wasn't even 20 years old yet. He could've lived another fifty years.

March 20, 2008; fifty-seven year old Judy Kay Zagorski, of Pigeon, Michigan, was sitting in the front seat of her father's boat going 25 knots on the Atlantic Ocean side of Vaca Key in Florida, when a Spotted Eagle Ray, with a wingspan of 5 to 6 feet; leaped up out of the water-- for who knows what reason --and collided with Zagorski, knocking her backwards onto the deck of the boat. She died from the impact. Judy's sister, standing next to her, wasn't injured.

On a November morning in 1998, Alan Pakula climbed into his Volvo station wagon and began the 100-mile drive from Manhattan to his Long Island house. The acclaimed movie director of Sophie's Choice, All The President's Men, and The Pelican Brief, had made that trip countless times with no incident.

As the 70 year-old Pakula neared exit 49 on the Long Island Expressway just before noon, the tires of a vehicle ahead of him flipped a 7-foot piece of steel rod into the air. Within seconds, the rod shot through Pakula's windshield, smashing into his forehead, killing him almost instantly.

Death often comes when people least expect it. As a rule, they don't usually get up in the morning planning it to be their last day on earth. The 169,752 killed, and 127,294 listed as missing in more than eleven countries by the tsunami of 2004, were taken by surprise, and given no warning it was to be their last day on earth.

The 2,829 people who perished in a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and the 189 who died in the Pentagon, didn't go in to work expecting their lives to end before lunch that day. No, people's lives often end while they still have obligations and commitments, aspirations, things to do, places to go, and people to see; when a car accident, train wreck, act of nature, plane crash, crime, heart attack, or stroke puts an abrupt end to every plan they ever made.

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, a 7.0 earthquake struck Port au Prince Haiti right out of the blue subsequently causing the loss of more than 200,000 lives. A similar act of nature on March 11, 2011, left 25,000 dead and/or missing in Japan.

Okeechobee woman Dawn Johnston, 38, was killed Wednesday June 30, 2010 after part of a portable toilet crashed through her car's windshield. Dawn was driving south on SR 15 shortly after 11 a.m. when two portable toilets fell from the trailer of a pickup truck traveling north,. The portable toilets shattered when they hit the road, and a piece of one of them crashed through the woman's windshield, striking her. Johnston's car then veered off the road and collided with a tree.

A rain-saturated hillside above the Stillaguamish River on the outskirts of the rural town of Oso in the State of Washington gave way March 22, 2014 leaving behind a current death toll of 41 souls. The landslide happened to suddenly and so rapidly that nobody saw it coming and/or had the slightest chance of getting out of the way. Listed among the dead and missing was a four-month old infant.

Freak incidents like those listed above can happen to anybody in the form of a stray bullet from a drive-by, lightening strike, gas explosion, choking on a piece of meat, electrocution, earthquake, a drunk driver, a fall in the bath tub; bricks dropped from an overpass, a school shooting, or any number of out-of-the-blue surprises.

Because of the uncertainty of tomorrow, people need to start thinking about the afterlife today, while they have the chance; rather than risk being caught off guard by sudden death when there will be no time to think; and they find themselves suddenly thrust into the unseen world unprepared.

Ecc 9:12 . . No man knows when his hour will come: as fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them. _

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According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However; though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give it either a thumb up or a thumb down.

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Mark 9:47-48 . . If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It is better to enter the kingdom of God half blind than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell; where the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

The "hell" in that passage is a different Greek word than the "hell" of Luke 16:19 31. That one is haides (hah'-dace) which is an afterlife sphere where all the dead go; both the good dead and the bad dead regardless of age, race, color, gender or religious preference. This word here in Mark is geena (gheh'-en-nah) which is where only the bad dead will end up some day: likely the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15

Anyway; Christ's instructions didn't reveal anything new. He simply reiterated information that had already been released by an Old Testament prophet roughly 700 years before.

Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me-- speaks the Lord. And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against Me: their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.

That rather ghastly scene depicts a sort of tourist attraction similar to the La Brea Tar Pits museum in Los Angeles where the remains of prehistoric creatures, excavated from ancient asphalt deposits, are on display.

A worm that thrives in brimstone is pretty amazing, but not unreasonable. The 4 inch Pompeii worm lives in sea water temperatures of 176° Fahrenheit; hot enough to kill salmonella and sanitize an egg. So I guess if God could create a worm like the Pompeii, it shouldn't be too difficult for Him to create worms that like it even warmer

FAQ: The human body is organic. So then, how can it survive the heat as perpetual nourishment for those worms?

A: The laws of nature are not absolute. They were created in the first chapter of Genesis to control the behavior of created matter, and as such are easily manipulated by the one who designed them.

For example: fire totally incinerated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah but left unscathed a desert shrub that Moses encountered in the Sinai outback while tending his father-in-law's sheep. (Ex 3:1-3)

Compare Dan 3:8-27 where a blistering hot fire didn't even so much as singe the clothing of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego while slaying the guards that threw them in the furnace.

FAQ: Won't the worms eventually exhaust their food supply?

A: There are incidents in the Bible where small amounts of food stuffs were miraculously multiplied. One example is 1Kgs 17:8-16 where a tiny bit of flour and oil nourished Elijah and a widow woman, and her son, for a good many days during a time of prolonged drought.

Another incident is at 2Kgs 4:1-7 where a certain widow's husband died and left her deeply in debt. God multiplied her last pot of oil sufficiently to sell enough to pay off her debts, thereby saving her two sons from slavery.

No; I'm pretty sure those worms won't need to worry about running out of human remains with which to sustain themselves. _

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Eph 1:4-5 . .He chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself,

Predestination isn't random; it's typically always the consequence of foreknowledge. In other words: God has always known, from the very beginning, by means of precognition, who will, and who won't, come to faith in His son. And seeing as how He had that information at hand early on, then it was safe and practical to go ahead and establish their adoption in advance seeing as how it's a sure thing.

Rom 8:29 . . For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the likeness of His son.

FAQ: If God predestined Christ's followers to be conformed to the likeness of His son, then wouldn't that mean He predestined Christ's non followers to be conformed to the Devil's likeness?

A: I should think that a reasonable conclusion. In point of fact, passages like John 8:44 and Eph 2:1-2 strongly suggest that the process of conforming folks to the Devil's likeness is the default, i.e. everybody starts out on that path. _

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There was a time when everyone went to the netherworld when they passed away: Jesus too because when he passed away on the cross; Jesus didn't go up, rather, he went down. (Matt 12:40, John 20:17, Acts 7:25-31).

When we take into consideration everybody who ever lived and died on this planet beginning with Adam; then we're talking about a very large number of people. How do they all fit in the netherworld without overcrowding?

Well; it's evident that people exist in the afterlife as disembodied spirits. (Heb 12:22-23, 1Pet 3:18-20)

The feral man of Mark 5:1-13 and Luke 8:26-33 was possessed by a community of evil spirits who labeled themselves Legion. Webster's defines a legion as the principal unit of the Roman army comprising 3,000 to 6,000 foot soldiers with cavalry.

The legion of spirits that Christ exorcised from the man went out and possessed a herd of about 2,000 swine. That's a pretty good example of how spirits take up no room in the physical world; nor do they crowd each other. All 3,000-6,000 of those spirits managed to fit inside the bodily cargo area of just that one man.

That being the case, then the netherworld need not be a void. People can exist down there in solid rock because spirits don't need space, they just need a place.

NOTE: Any attempt to drill down to the heart of the Earth in search of the netherworld would likely be futile because it isn't a natural world, rather, it's a supernatural world. Drilling could, and would, pass right through the very center of the netherworld and still not find it. _

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OBJECTION: Hell doesn't make sense that a loving God would torment people in a fiery prison forever and ever.

RESPONSE: I fully agree that it makes no sense at all. But then human intelligence is produced by a 3-pound lump of flabby organic tissue; and not even all three of those pounds are devoted to cognitive processes. On top of that, those three pounds are 60% fat. That fatty, flabby, organic tissue can alter one's personality with little more than an aneurysm or a blow to the head.

Just how bright can a fatty, flabby, organic intelligence really be compared to the IQ of a supernatural being with enough intelligence to invent, design, and construct a fully functioning cosmos with all of its forms of life, matter, and energy? A fatty, flabby, organic intelligence isn't even a dunce in comparison: it's the IQ of a termite; if even that.

1Cor 3:20 . .The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are empty.

Well; that's certainly not a very flattering evaluation. It's as much as saying that, in God's opinion, the smartest among humanity basically consists of air heads; and if that's His evaluation of the best and brightest, then where might God be ranking John Que and Jane Doe pew warmer? _

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2Thess 2:11-12 . . God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In other words: there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared the wrath of God.

Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked and poked fun at him as if he were a deranged soul going around with a sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on earth who could open it-- He chose not to.

Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. _

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FAQ: Doesn't the Bible say that God's mercy endures forever as per Ps 100:5, Ps 106:1, Ps 107:1, and Ps 118:1, et al?

A: God's mercy is always available; but His good sense knows when to say "when". Examples of that are the people swept away by the hand of God in the Flood, and those burned to death by the hand of God in Sodom and Gomorrah; and the firstborn of man and beast slain by the hand of God on Passover night in Egypt.

It's possible to push God too far. For example:

Hos 4:17 . . Ephraim is joined to idols; let him alone.

In other words: God instructed the prophet Hosea not to bother preaching in Ephraim because He was fed up with them.

Down at the end of all with which we are familiar, the announcement below will be made.

Rev 22:11 . . Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.

In other words: the people to whom those words pertain, will be stuck with who and what they are with no chance of ever being any different. That's good news for the righteous and/or holy, whereas really bad news for the evil and/or filthy.

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Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell.

FAQ: If somebody is already dead, then how can Hell kill their body?

A: The current Hell (a.k.a. Hades) doesn't kill the human body because for now when people die, their bodies stay here rather than going there. But out ahead in the future; people in Hades will be resurrected to face justice at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Should the judgment go against them, their bodies will be terminated once more in yet another hell called the lake of fire, i.e. an impoundment consisting of brimstone. _

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FAQ: Do you not know it is the kindness of God that leads men to repentance rather than fear and threats of fiery justice? (Rom 2:4)

A: If the Bible's God weren't so kind, then He wouldn't bother with giving His creatures advance notice of the horror in store for them in the afterlife.

Luke 12:4-5 . . And I say unto you my friends; Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into Hell; yea, I say unto you fear Him.

Was Christ wrong to instill a fear of God within people's hearts? No; I think he was 110% justified. For example: when I was working as a professional welder for the US Army Corps of Engineers, we had weekly and monthly safety meetings wherein we were shown some grisly photographs of real life industrial accidents involving burns, chain saws, punctured eyes, explosions, falls, crane collapses, suffocation, crushing, and the like.

Let me tell you: those safety meetings got our attention, and really made a sharp distinction between the fool and the wise. Somebody like Billy Graham needs to get out there and let people know that they're up against a celestial despot far more dangerous than the CCP and/or North Korea's Kim Jong-Un.

Prov 22:3 . . A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

The kindness of God has given the world fair and adequate notice of what to expect in the afterlife. Those who don't care about it one way or the other would be well advised to use what time they have remaining to begin preparing themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side. _

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FAQ: The Bible thumpers say it's a "must" to believe in Christ's gospel in order to be spared the wrath of God. How is that fair to peoples of the world who were never afforded an opportunity to hear it?

REPLY: According to Ps 19:1-4, Rom 1:19-20, and Rom 2:14-15; uninformed folk are required to act upon an abridged version of the gospel order to be spared the wrath of God, to wit:

1» Conscience.

2» The cosmos is the result of intelligent design.

3» The designer deserves respect and admiration

4» The designer is someone to fear.

So then, the cosmos and the conscience, become the basis upon which God judges people who've somehow gone through life without ever hearing the Bible taught or preached. And seeing as how the justice of God is described as righteous (Rom 2:5) then no doubt their punishment will be quite a bit more lenient than the punishment in store for the gospel's detractors. (cf. Luke 2:47-48 and Heb 10:29). Those folks are immediately condemned when they do so-- no delay and no waiting period. (John 3:16-18)

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Heaven is sometimes depicted as a mountain with any number of roads around the base heading towards the top. Well; classical Christianity accepts only one of those roads reaches the top; viz: the rest are dead-ends, loops, terraces, circles, and cul de-sacs, i.e. no outlets and nowhere to go except round and around or back down the mountain.

Hell is depicted as a colossal pit, deep and wide, with many roads around the rim heading towards the bottom. Well; classical Christianity accepts that every one of those roads eventually merge into one big super expressway to the bottom.

Matt 7:13-14 . . Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

How many people does the quantity "many" represent? Well, according to my sources, as of mid 2020 there were approximately:

50,000 . . . . . . . . Scientologists
16,500,000 . . . . .Mormons
8,200,000 . . . . . .Practicing Jehovah's Witnesses
8,531,000 . . . . . .Baha'i
545,584,000 . . . .Buddhists
468,411,000 . . . .Chinese Folk Religionists
8,606,000 . . . . . .Confucianists
269,498,000 . . . .Ethnic Religionists
1,062,595,000 . . .Hindus
6,135,000 . . . . . .Jains
14,779,000 . . . . .Jews
1,893,345,000 . . Muslims
64,549,000 . . . . .New Religionists.
2,788,000 . . . . . .Shintoists
28,000,000 . . . . .Sikhs
14,851,000 . . . . .Spiritists
9,078,000 . . . . . .Taoists
1,757,433,000 . . .Non Religious/Atheists/Agnostics

The grand total of just those categories is 5,710,522,000

If those figures are in the ball park, and if classical Christianity is the truth; then at least 73% of the earth's current population of 7.78+ billion people are on a road to Hell; and no doubt some of those are people we know: our BFFs, our loved ones, and our associates.

NOTE: Falun Gong, a.k.a. Falun Dafa, isn't listed because its numbers are uncertain. _

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It's natural to assume that only really bad people are in hell. But according to Matt 7:23-27, John 3:3-8, John 3:14-20, John 3:36, and Rev 20:11-15, anybody can be there; both the good, the bad, and the not so bad-- bikers, bakers, lawyers, welders, actors and actresses, housewives, bankers, heavy equipment operators, loggers, convicts, celebrities, homeless bums, clergy, prostitutes, drug lords, postmen, Presidents, Kings,

. . . statesmen, astronauts, school teachers, scientists, nurses, doctors, chemists, machinists, carpenters, waiters, hotel managers, cops, judges, nuns, priests, Popes, deacons, salesmen, Miss Americas, news anchors, weathermen, and birdwatchers, et al --people from every walk, every career, every religion, every culture, every language, every ethnic, every craft, and every status: they're all in danger of the sum of all fears.

Rev 20:12 . . I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened.

Because when you strip away their gender, their titles, their distinctions, their privileges, and their entitlements; and stand them before God naked; people are only flesh and blood creatures-- naked apes, just human beings; and human beings are intrinsically sinful beings whether inbred or bred to perfection.

Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

Ps 58:3 . . Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies.

Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature objects of wrath.

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POSIT: Christ is compassionate and would never run an eternal torture mill for his lost sheep.

RESPONSE: Christ doesn't have any lost sheep. All those that God entrusted to His son's care are safe and sound.

John 10:9 . . I am the gate; whoever enters through me shall be saved.

Were Christ a so-so shepherd; then he wouldn't dare say "shall be" saved; no, he'd have to tone it down a bit and say "can be" saved. That would leave him some room for error. But when Christ says "shall be" he's claiming a 0.0% failure rate.

In addition, the Father's free will trumps the sheep's free will.

John 6:39 . .This is the will of the one who sent me; that I should not lose anything of what He gave me.

So then, were Christ to lose even one of the sheep, he would disappoint the one who sent him. But Christ never fails to satisfy his Father's expectations.

John 14:31 . . That the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do.

John 8:29 . .The one who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, because I always do what is pleasing to Him.

Were Christ to lose even one of the sheep in his care, he wouldn't be able to say that he "always" does what is pleasing to God. He might claim some of the time, or even most of the time, but never all the time.

When people say that it's possible for Jesus to lose sheep; they are actually casting a vote of no-confidence in his Father's approval rating.

Matt 3:16-17 . . As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said; "This is My son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

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FAQ: Isn't Judaism equally as useful as Christianity for sinners seeking God's forgiveness? Isn't that the whole purpose of Yom Kippur, a.k.a. the Day of Atonement?

A: Pinning one's hopes on the Day Of Atonement is futile. For one thing: there's no one to perform the ritual seeing as how there is neither a Temple nor a fully functioning Levitical priesthood on duty in Jerusalem at this time. In point of fact, neither of those two essential elements of the Day of Atonement have been in Jerusalem since 70 AD. But that's not the worst of it.

There is a special goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat, which Webster's defines as a person who is unfairly blamed for something that others have done; in other words: a fall guy. But that does not quite accurately define Yom Kippur's special goat. It's actually an escaping goat; viz: a fugitive; here's why.

It's a biblical axiom that the soul that sins, it shall die, i.e. the wages of sin is death (Ezek 18:20, Rom 6:23). Well; the special goat is allowed to live rather than executed, so justice for the worshippers' sins remain pending; hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles.

NOTE: Leaving a goat out in a wilderness place to fend for itself isn't a death sentence. No; far from it. Goats are survivors. They can get by in environments that quite a few other species would find quite disagreeable. And though the Jews were in a wilderness place during their wanderings, there was vegetation enough to nourish the herds. (Ex 34:3)

Yom Kippur's purpose then, isn't to exonerate the people; rather, to remind the people that although Yom Kippur's ritual sanitizes them sufficiently for worship purposes per Lev 16:30, their sins are still on the books, yet to be brought to justice; which is doubtless the reason that Lev 16:29-31, Lev 16:31, Lev 23:27, and Lev 23:32 does not allow them to be cheerful and/or feel good about themselves on that day. It's actually a day to despise one's self, i.e. regard one's self as loathsome and despicable.

HADES UPDATE:31 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,934,400 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021 _

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I know of the Protestant pastor who was asked by Audie Murphy's widow Pamela to speak at her husband's funeral. Audie Murphy, as you may already know, was a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner; but he wasn't a Christian.

In amazement, the pastor asked Mrs. Murphy why she chose a Christian minister to speak at her husband's funeral.

Although Audie himself wasn't a Christian, Pamela was; and she explained that the Hollywood crowd would be there the day of his funeral, and having hob-nobbed with them during her husband's acting career, she was fully aware that many of them were rarely confronted with something serious about the afterlife.

Well; they got both barrels that day, and were very annoyed because they were expecting the usual sappy, feel-good rhetoric to which pampered celebrities are accustomed.

Some may feel that Hell isn't an appropriate topic at a funeral. But I think that, other than Xmas and Easter, you couldn't pick a better time to bring it up, especially since Christ said that the majority ends up there.

Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of gaiety, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this seriously.

According to the Bible; not many great people are called (1Cor 1:26). If that's true, then we have to expect that the majority of the world's best and brightest achievers-- the really big names in sports, science, medicine, law, politics, technology, business, industry, religion, entertainment, and education, etc --don't, and won't, make it to safety when they pass on.

As I watched some of the splendor and pomp of President Gerald Ford's funeral back in January of 2007, I couldn't help but wonder if he was in a position to really appreciate it; as I suspect people in Hades would certainly no longer really care anymore whether they were given an unknown pauper's disposal in a City incinerator, or reverently placed in a grand tomb in the National Cemetery with world-wide television coverage. _

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Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this law by doing them.

Something that should be emphasized is that the curse is irrevocable; so it's very important to come to grips with it; and the sooner the better.

Matt 5:18 . . For assuredly, I say to you: till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will by any means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

In other words: whoever deserves that curse is absolutely certain to get it.

In point of fact, Deut 27:26 is grammatically present tense rather than future, indicating that the curse is instant-- no delay and no waiting period. i.e. it's already on the books hanging over people's heads like a guillotine just waiting for the man in charge to give the executioner a signal to let go the rope keeping the blade in check. _

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FAQ: Jer 32:33-35 and Deut 12:31 say that the Old Testament's God abhors human sacrifices. How then can He approve of the New Testament's cross?

A: The Old Testament predicted human sacrifice; with God's full approval and participation no less.

Isa 53:6 . . The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Isa 53:10 . . It was The Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer-- The Lord makes his life a guilt offering.

According to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, the laws of God are not retroactive. This is important because Jesus was designated, and scheduled, to die on a cross to atone for the sins of the world prior to the voice of God creating even a single atom for the current cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21 & Rev 13:8)

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FAQ: Can you cite an Old Testament example where God approved human sacrifice?

A: Yes.

Gen 22:1-2 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him: Abraham! And he said: Here I am. And He said: Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.

NOTE: According to Gen 18:23-33, Abraham wasn't above challenging God's sense of right and wrong. Had the old boy seriously believed that offering his son Isaac as a burnt offering was wrong, he would've said something; in point of fact, he had three days to think about it. (Gen 22:4)

Did Abraham slay Isaac? No; but did Abraham offer Isaac? Yes.

Gen 22:9 . .Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

You see, once a gift dedicated to God is placed on an altar, it's a done deal-- whether the offering is dead or alive makes no difference. In point of fact, the letter to Hebrews credits Abraham with offering his son in obedience to God's command.

Heb 11:17 . . By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

Had God disapproved human sacrifice, He would've stopped Abraham before Isaac was laid on the altar.

But the real clincher is the 53rd chapter of Isaiah, which speaks of a human sacrifice fully arranged, sanctioned, and worked out by none other than "the arm of The Lord". In other words: it was a task wherein God rolled up His sleeves and really got down to business._

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Jonah 1:17 . . Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days and three nights

FAQ: Was Jonah alive in the fish?

A: Yes. (Jonah 2:1)

FAQ: The whole time?

A: No.

At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place called sheol (Jonah 2:2) which he sited at the bottoms of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well; the bottoms of the mountains aren't located in the tummies of fish, no; they're located down deep in the earth. So, the only way that Jonah could possibly be at the bottoms of the mountains while in the belly of a fish at the same time was for the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.

Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

Jonah 2:6 . .To the bottoms of the mountains I went down. As for the earth, its bars were upon me for time indefinite. But out of the pit you proceeded to bring up my life, O Jehovah my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse is the very same word for pit in Ps 16:8-10; which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction. In other words: Jonah 2:6 tells of Jonah's resurrection. (There's reason to believe that Jonah was already dead from drowning in the sea's depths before the fish showed up to swallow him.)

Christ underwent the very same afterlife experience as Jonah's. The only real difference between the two was that Christ's grave was in a rock while Jonah's grave was in a fish.

The key points in their experiences are that both were dead, both went to the bottoms of the mountains while their corpse reposed in a grave, and both were resurrected within three days and three nights. (Jonah 1:17, Matt 12:40)

FAQ: What does the story of Jonah have to do with the afterlife?

A: It's widely believed that when people die they cease to exist. Well; were that belief a fact; then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross. As a result: he would not have been resurrected back to life, instead, Jesus would've been created back to life. Jonah's experience proves that Jesus continued to exist out of body when he pass away; and if he and Jonah did, then everyone else does too. _

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Gen 6:1-2 . .When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.

If we posit that the "sons of God" were believers and the "daughters of men" were not; then it would appear that back in Noah's day, believing men threw caution to the wind and built themselves harems of unbelieving women. What happened to those believing men when it came time for the Flood? Well, for one thing; they had lost their piety.

Gen 7:1 . .The Lord then said to Noah: Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation.

None of the other sons of God in that day were righteous-- Noah was the only one; therefore they weren't invited aboard the ark. So all of those men-- whose women were chosen based solely upon sensual allure sans any spiritual prudence whatsoever --perished in the Flood right along with everybody else; and if there were children, they perished too.

1 Cor 15:33-34 . . Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character. Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God-- I say this to your shame.

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Ps 146:3-4 . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Some people honestly believe the passage above teaches that people cease to exist when they pass away; but were their belief true, then Christ would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross and in order to restore the Lord's body back to life, it would've necessary to create him back to existence. No; I'm pretty sure it's saying something very different.

"When their breathing stops, they return to the earth, and in a moment all their plans come to an end."

Consider all those people who perished in the World Trade Center, in the Japan and Indonesia tsunamis, and the Haiti earthquake. None of them woke that day planning on it being their last on earth. No, on the contrary; they had people to see, places to go, and things to do: but before the day ended; whatever was on their minds lost its importance-- their priorities went right out the window and became no more significant than green cheese on the moon.

All their plans, their dreams, their schedules, their appointments, their schemes, their problems, their aspirations, and their loves went right down the tubes as they were suddenly confronted with a whole new reality to cope with.

While preparing for a new world tour, Michael Jackson died in his sleep. As a result; his tour wrapped on the spot.

When my eldest nephew was paroled from prison; he quit drinking, and began going to college with the goal towards becoming a counselor. For 2˝ years all went well. His parole officer was happy, and my nephew was on track and getting good grades. His future looked assured. And then on the morning of Sept 25, 2015, he dropped dead to the floor of natural causes. As a result; his college education, and his hope to become a counselor, dropped dead to the floor right with him.

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Here in America, even the worst among the worst have the right to an attorney, and if they can't afford one, the system will appoint a public defender for them.

But in the fiery sector of Hades; people are abandoned. For example: the names of Abraham and Lazarus are given in Luke 16:19-31, but the rich man's name isn't given. He's a forgotten man.

Prov 10:7 . .The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.

Christ's followers have the advantage of a competent defender 24/7/365

Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus who died? More than that, who was raised to life; who is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us? _

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Ecc 1:2-4 . . Meaningless! Futile! complains the Teacher. Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless. What does a man gain from all his labor at which he toils under the sun? Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

The earth is dumber than a pizza box; yet easily outlives its human potentate whose IQ is infinitely greater. Take for example the great granite monuments in Yosemite Valley. Tourists to the valley come, and tourists to the valley go; and one day the grim reaper catches up with those tourists and they're gone; yet Yosemite's great stones abide decade after decade; century after century.

Most children born this day will be dead in 100 years; and Yosemite won't even notice. Though a child born today may be intelligent enough to eventually understand quantum mechanics and play classical guitar like Andrés Segovia; yet Yosemite's sentinels-- stupid, mute, and uneducated - will easily outlast it.

Ecc 2:15-16 . . I thought in my heart: The fate of the fool will overtake me also. What then do I gain by being wise? I said in my heart: This is meaningless. For the wise man, like the fool, will not be long remembered-- in days to come both will be forgotten. Like the fool, the wise man too must die. _

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FAQ: According to Rev 20:14, John saw Death discarded in a lake of fire. Well; death is an abstract. How then can it be spoken of as an object that can be picked up and thrown like a baseball or a javelin?

REPLY: Rev 20:14 is likely speaking of Death as a category consisting of everything and anything one can possibly imagine that God considers dead to Himself.

Whatever all of that amounts to, it will all be exiled-- viz: disposed of --in that fiery impound. In that respect, the lake of fire could be thought of as a sanitary landfill.

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Matt 5:9 . . Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

Peace is actually one of the negative aspects of Heaven because peace is not ideal for people who thrive in a society where behaviors like the ones listed below are the norm.

Discord, hatred, factions, cliques, mistrust, prejudice, bias, caste systems, double standards, partiality, favoritism, deceit, surmising, dishonesty, gossip, slander, sarcasm, cynicism, ridicule, envy, rivalry, resentment, avarice, greed, gossip, character assassination, kangaroo courts, complaining, tattling, meddling, confrontations, activism, quarrels, assertiveness, heated debates, chafing, trickery, grudging, stonewalling, bitterness, silent treatments,

. . . revenge, stubbornness, cold shouldering, snobbery, egotism, dominance, demeaning comments, pecking orders, rebellion, arrogance, attitudes, subterfuge, treachery, betrayal, suspicion, conceit, vanity, superiority complexes, depression, melancholy, panic attacks, bi-polar disorders, antisocial behaviors, sociopaths, crime, war, despotism, oppression, injustice, human rights abuses, character assassination, toxic rejoinders, smart-Alek retorts, snide remarks, etc, etc, et al, and ad nausea.

In addition; there are stand-up fighters for whom every disagreement is either an insult or an act of war. And when they're angry, they just have to give you a piece of their mind. Those people would really be a fish out of water in God's world.

I've heard it said that Heaven is a place prepared for a prepared people; i.e. people conditioned for Heaven; viz: undergone changes and/or modifications so as to make them suitable for Heaven. People whose personalities are by nature detrimental to peace are going to miss the boat if they cross over to the next life in their natural condition. _

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During Jonah's nautical adventure, he spent some time in sheol (Jonah 2:2) which he placed at the bottoms of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well, Jonah's fish was under the sea rather than under the mountains, and seeing as how no part of a mountain is located in a fish's tummy, then we can be reasonably certain that what Jonah experienced was that he and his body parted company; implying that Jonah wasn't alive in the fish for the whole three days and three nights reported by Jonah 1:17; which corroborates Jonah 2:9 that the prophet's body underwent putrefaction and would've been completely destroyed had not God resurrected him in time to stop the process from getting out of hand.

Jesus appropriated Jonah's experience to illustrate his own. Jesus predicted that at some time during his three days and nights deceased, he would be in the heart of the Earth. (Matt 12:40)

Well; Jesus' body was laid to rest on the surface of the Earth; so in order for him to be down inside the Earth at same time, he and his body had to part company. In other words: Jesus spent some of his three days and nights at the bottoms of the mountains, i.e. sheol. And he too was resurrected in time to stop the process of putrefaction from getting out of hand. (Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-32)

FAQ: What does the story of Jonah have to do with Hades?

A: It's widely believed that when people die they cease to exist. Well; were that belief a fact; then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross. As a result: he would not have been restored to life via resurrection, rather, via creation.

Jonah's experience proves that Jesus continued to exist out of body when he passed away; and if he and Jonah did, then everyone else does too.

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Judas goats are trained for use in slaughterhouses and herd control. In stockyards, they lead sheep to slaughter; and are also used to lead other animals to specific pens and on to trucks. The term is a reference to the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot.

The phrase has also been used to describe goats utilized to locate feral goats targeted for eradication. They're usually outfitted with a transmitter, painted in red and then released. The goats then locate the remaining herds of feral goats, allowing hunters with tracking devices to find and exterminate them. The red paint marks the goat with the transmitter so the hunters know which one not to shoot.

You know what can be even worse than going to Hell? Your own children following you there: and they trusted you.

Here's a sort of cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it's plausible.

A farmer went out to the barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak a pull from his secret liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he heard something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming towards him. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to find his way out to the barn in the dark. His son replied: It was easy; I walked in your footprints.

One can only imagine the anguish that parents in the netherworld must feel knowing that they inadvertently raised their children in an ideology that led them down a road to the infernal regions and all the while sincerely believing themselves doing the right thing. In other words: they actually Judas-goated their children to follow mom and dad down there. For some families, the only thing they have to look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire and despair._

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Luke 16:25 . . Abraham said: Son, remember

I should think that one of the negative aspects of perdition is memory. How people down there retain their memories sans the brain cells they left behind with their corpse, I don't know; but they do, just as the rich man in that story is able to experience thirst sans a flesh and blood tongue. Apparently God has some sort of file transfer protocol that silicon valley has yet to discover.

The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those memories haunt us with terrible regret. However, people down below not only have to cope with their bad memories, but also the good ones too, and I should think it's remembering the good things they enjoyed in life that makes their situation only worse in the heat.

If everybody was born and raised in an oven; and never once ventured out; that would be the only life they've ever known, so they wouldn't have a clue what it's like to really live. For them the old maxim "Ignorance is bliss" would certainly hold true. For example: many of the people born and raised in North Korea sincerely believe the entire world is no better off than they are. _

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Gen 6:5 . . God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The thoughts of the heart are somewhat different than the thoughts that go through the mind; and are often blocked out, viz: "repressed"; defined as a mental process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that may give rise to anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate in the unconscious, i.e. the subconscious which, in Freud's opinion, is a repository for socially unacceptable ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions.

Matt 15:19 . . Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts

So then, it's not how your mind works that defines you, no, it's how your heart works that really defines you; and a man's heart is easily capable of hoodwinking his own consciousness.

Jer 17:9 . .The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?

God is able to peer into the heart's contents. That means He will be confronting people with things about themselves that they suppressed and kept under wraps all their lives; and that's why I sometimes say only a fool would take their chances with God. They have no clue the extent of the psychological tsunami they're walking into.

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According to a report released on March 25, 2014 by the World Health Organization; air pollution kills, on average, seven million people per annum; and is linked to one in eight deaths (12.5%) world-wide.

According to a report by the public health agency of the United Nations; an estimated 4.3 million people in developing countries died in 2012 as a result of indoor air pollution, mostly from cooking inside with coal or wood stoves.

Air pollution is so lethal because it exacerbates other conditions like cardio vascular diseases, cancer, and respiratory illnesses. Were people with those conditions permitted to breathe clean air free of hazardous chemicals and toxic particulates, they would live longer; thus the arrival times of many tagged for the infernal regions would be delayed so they could enjoy life a bit longer before beginning an eternity of perpetual anguish.

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The wrath of God is interesting. For example:

Isa 13:9 . . Behold, the day of The Lord comes-- cruel; with both wrath and fierce anger

The Hebrew word for "wrath" in that statement is 'ebrah (eb-raw') which indicates an outburst of passion. In other words: the wrath of God won't be weeping big wet crocodile tears while it's slamming the dead at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15; no, they will be terminated with extreme prejudice; viz: their judgment will be administered with choler. (cf. Isa 63:1-6, Rev 19:15)

Webster's defines "fierce" as a behavior exhibited by humans and animals that inspires terror because of the wild and menacing aspect of fury in attack. Ferocity is an aspect commonly seen among roaring, snarling lions savagely attacking prey. There's neither sportsmanship nor sympathy in ferocity; only sheer terror, brutality, and blood lust.

"cruel" is defined as: disposed to inflict pain or suffering; viz: devoid of humane feelings

Heb 10:27 . . A certain fearful expectation of . . . fiery indignation

"fiery indignation" is quite a bit more severe than ordinary indignation. It speaks of someone who is seriously ticked off; and so angry that they're actually red in the face.

There are people out there in pews all around the world who have been so coddled by sappy versions of Christianity that they have no concept of the magnitude of the lethal tsunami of rage and violence coming their way to get them.

Another interesting aspect of the wrath of God is the person appointed to administer it-- none other than the sweet little baby away in a manger.

John 5:22-23 . .The Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father.

Acts 17:31 . . For God has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.

Rev 19:15 . . He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. _

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2Thes 2:11-12 . . God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In other words: there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared the wrath of God.

Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked and poked fun at him like one of those deranged souls that go around with a sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on earth who could open it-- He chose not to.

Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. _

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Acts 2:31a . . his soul was not left in Hades

Classical Hades is divided into sections where the souls of the dead are assigned in accordance with the quality of their pre-death existence. The worst section is a deep abyss called Tartarus; which is utilized in the New Testament at 2Pet 2:4.

According to Luke 23:13, Jesus' soul waited for his body's recovery in the better section of Hades.

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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before they were forgiven unless they undergo a radical re-design because human nature is intrinsically bad.

Gen 6:5 . .The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

John 3:7 . . You should not be surprised at my saying: you must be born again.

Well; in light of the passages above, it's certainly no surprise to me that people need to be regenerated; and I'm not talking about reincarnation; no, I'm talking about an upgrade to the very core of their being so that they would, by nature, be the children of Heaven rather than the children of Hell. _

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The reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at Rev 20:10-15 is not only a rack but also a gallows. The reservoir is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences rather than life sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual; it's momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only long enough to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's permanent; viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the second death because they will have used up their one resurrection in order to face justice at the Great White Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15. Nobody walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15. _

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Human existence on earth is a composite of body, soul, and spirit. (Gen 2:7, 1Thes 5:23, Heb 4:12)

The body and the soul are readily destroyed by means of Hell fire (Matt 10:28) but I have yet to come across a passage in the Bible teaching that the spirit is destroyed by that means; or by any means for that matter.

In what condition people will exist in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11 15 minus a human body and a human soul I don't know. It might be that the human spirit is transferable.

What if God is able to move people's spirit around at will and attach it to a body and soul other than a human body and soul; say, the body and soul of a demonic being? The very thought of such a possibility is disturbing.

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POSIT: I'm special; God understands me. Although He probably may not let others off; I'm sure God will make an exception for me because I'm not like other people; I'm different.

RESPONSE: Unfortunately, the Bible's God can't do that. If He were to make exceptions, God would be neither equitable, nor honest-- and worse, it would go against His grain, compromise His integrity, sin against His conscience; and cause Him to lose the world's respect.

No, God doesn't grade on a curve: everyone is treated equally in God's courtroom. In a system of divine absolutes; there is neither a curve nor an exception: nobody gets any favors, nobody is special, and nobody is a protected species.

Deut 10:17 . . Jehovah shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

Acts 10:34 . .Then Peter began to speak: I now realize how true it is that God is impartial.

Rom 2:5-11 . . For there is coming a day of judgment when God, the just judge of all the world, will judge all people according to what they have done. He will give eternal life to those who persist in doing what is good, seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers.

. . . But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for themselves, who refuse to obey the truth; and practice evil deeds. There will be anguish and calamity for everyone who practices evil-- for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all practice good --for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism. _

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The rich man spoken of in Luke 16:19-31 addressed Abraham as "father" and he in turn addressed the man as "son" which suggests to me that the man is a Jew, and as such would be related to Abraham as grandfather/grandson via Isaac and Jacob.

I have two grandsons. I'm not sure how well i will cope should either of them end up in the wrong place. _

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The law of God says: Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, burning for burning, hand for hand, foot for foot, wound for wound, and stripe for stripe.

Where does that leave people like Ted Kaczynski who killed and/or maimed 26 people with homemade bombs; or Stephen Paddock who indiscriminately sprayed a music concert in Las Vegas with a rifle equipped with a bump stock resulting in 471 dead and/or wounded; and the numerous serial killers that are in and out of the news from time to time? How are those people supposed to balance the scales of justice for all the illegal deaths they've caused?

Well; the fact of the matter is: they can't balance the scales because they simply don't' have enough lives of their own with which to pay for their victims' lives. _

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Jonah 4:9-11 . . God said to Jonah: Do you have a right to be angry about the vine? I do; he said. I am angry enough to die. But the Lord said: You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?

Had not the adults of Nineveh changed their ways from Jonah's preaching, 120,000 small children would have died through no fault of their own. They would have been collateral damage due to their parents' decadence.

Though the city was spared in Jonah's day, a hundred years later in Nahum's day it was destroyed by means of war and conquest; whereby a whole new generation of pre-schoolers died before their time.

Just exactly how God is able to engineer such things is a bit of a mystery; but does make one wonder where else this terrifying work of His goes on. Did God somehow have a hand in the American civil war, and the first and second world wars, and the Holocaust, and in Korea and Vietnam, and in the so-called Arab Spring, and in the pandemics, the ethnic cleansings, ISIS, the housing bubble, and the genocides of the last century, and in natural events like mighty earthquakes, tsunamis, and super storms? I really have to wonder sometimes because Jonah's God is still out there somewhere; and so-called acts of God are still taking young lives. _

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Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death

That rule is very serious because, at most, people have only two lives to forfeit for sin-- the life they have now, and the one they'll have later at their resurrection; but unfortunately, their current life has already been forfeited due to Adam's disobedience in the garden of Eden so they can't use this life to atone for any of their own disobedience.

And when they're resurrected to stand trial at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15; that'll be their last life because according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted per person.

That's at least one of the reasons why no one is coming back from the second death depicted at Rev 20:11-15

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People tend to neglect thinking about the hereafter. Thus they become like a frog boiled to death by starting it out in cold water.

Mark 4:3-19 . . Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: and some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. These are they such as hear the word, and the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

Well, hello there
My, it's been a long, long time
How am I doing?
Oh, I guess that I'm doing fine

It's been so long now
But it seems now that it was only yesterday
Gee, ain't it funny
How time slips away?
(Billy Walker, 1961) _

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According to Matt 7:21-23, not everyone believing in Jesus will make it to safety.

I would not want to be one of them because they will surely be mocked cruelly and without mercy by some of the netherworld's unruly crowd. I can just hear their taunts:

Hey Christian! How's about sharing the gospel with us ay? Tell us about the love of God and how that's working for ya. Awwwww-Haw-Haw-Haw Hawwwwwwwww!

I'd rather end up in Hades as a Bernie Madoff than somebody believing in Jesus because ol' ponzi schemer Bernie is sure to be given far more respect down there than a bible-thumping Christian. _

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This is an alternate take on Psalm 115

Ps 115:17 . . The dead do not praise The Lord, nor do any who go down into silence

"The dead" in this Psalm likely refers to the folks spoken of in verses 2 thru 8 in comparison to the folks spoken of in verse 18 which reads:

"It is we who extol The Lord, both now and forevermore."

"any who go down into silence" are again the folks spoken of verses 2 thru 8. The Psalm is telling us that they might just as well be mute in the afterlife because The Lord no longer lends them His ear; they're permanently cut off from His benevolence, viz: The Lord has no interest whatsoever in either their worship nor their prayers, i.e. they are dead to Him; and as far as He's concerned, they don't even exist.

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Gen 3:5 . . God knows well that when you eat of [the tree of the knowledge of good and evil] your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, who know good and evil.

Was the Serpent's prediction true? Yes; to a certain extent.

Gen 3:22 . .Then the Lord God said: See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil.

Apparently human life was created minus intuitive moral values; which is likely the reason why some expositors refer to the time before the forbidden fruit incident as the age of innocence.

FAQ: Did Adam know it was wrong to taste the forbidden fruit? And if so, how did he know it was wrong without an intuitive sense of right and wrong?

A: Right and wrong were irrelevant in the beginning. Adam's early life was governed by sovereign oversight. In other words: God's instructions served as Adam's conscience, i.e. it wasn't incumbent upon him to make judgments.

Isa 48:17 . . I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is good and leads you along the paths you should follow.

Ps 32:8-10 . . I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will counsel you and watch over you. Do not be like the horse or the mule, which have no understanding but must be controlled by bit and bridle or they will not come to you. Many are the woes of the wicked, but the LORD's unfailing love surrounds the man who trusts in him. _

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FAQ: Was Adam's disobedience a Hell-worthy transgression?

A: No.

According to Gen 2:17 it was a death-worthy transgression rather than Hell worthy. In other words; the proper penalty for Adam's mistake was simply his loss of immortality. (cf. Gen 3:19 and Gen 3:22)

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Eph 2:2-3 . . As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath.

It's believed by a pretty large percentage of modern Christians that the so called fallen nature spoken of in that Ephesians passage is inherited from one's biological father. Oh? From whence did Eve get it?

She was constructed with material taken from Adam's body prior to the forbidden fruit incident. Since himself tasted the fruit after Eve was born; then it was impossible for Adam to pass the so-called fallen nature to her by means of procreation.

The ruler of the kingdom of the air-- i.e. the spirit world --has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

I really have to hand it to the Serpent; he's very good at shifting blame away from himself. For quite a few years now it's been traditional to believe biological fathers propagate the fallen nature; when it's been the Serpent's handiwork all along.

How he has managed to deceive so many people for so long a time I don't know, but what's really ironic about it is that there are people behind pulpits, and chairing whole Sunday school departments, working with him as a sort of propaganda machine of unsuspecting accomplices.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people. . . in the womb or out of the womb?

A: Adam and his wife demonstrate that that the ruler of the spirit world can do his dirty work on adults, but I'm guessing that for most of us, the tampering of our minds and bodies takes place in the womb. (Ps 51:5 & 58:3)

When Jesus told his opponents that they were the Devil's offspring (John 8:44) he wasn't just speaking in simile and/or metaphor; Jesus was speaking very close to the fact of the matter.

"For you are the children of your father the Devil, and you love to do the evil things he does."

There are Christians parroting that passage on and on, apparently oblivious to the truth of Eph 2:2-3 that John 8:44 applies to the core of their own natural being just the same as everybody else. _

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Gen 4:8 . . Cain talked with Abel his brother; and when they were in the field, Cain set upon his brother Abel and killed him.

The Hebrew word translated "killed" means to smite with deadly intent, i.e. murder.

The Bible's retribution for murder is capital punishment; and that comes out very early in God's communications with Man at Gen 9:5-6. However; Adam didn't have to prosecute Cain as required by that rule because it was enacted ex post facto, viz: the laws of God are not retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, Gal 3;17) _

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Consider a Jewish man who has undergone circumcision the eighth day as required, and successfully completed Bar Mitzvah. From that point on he is obligated to comply with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Now supposing that same Jewish man begins to have second thoughts about the covenant and thinks maybe he would like to try something else. Well; he is not at liberty to just up and walk away from the covenant; no, not when he is very likely indebted to it via one or more of the curses listed at Lev 26:14 39, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:15-68. Those curses have to be satisfied first before he can even surmise himself free to transfer his affections to another religion. If that man would like; Christ can do it for him.

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

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Continued from post No.105

So then, before a Jewish man can sever his commitment to the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; he must first meet two prerequisites.

1» Pay his debts to the covenant, i.e. fulfill any and all curses that he accrued in accord with Lev 26:14-39, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:15-68.

2» Undergo death. (Rom 7:1)

Christ's crucifixion satisfies the curses. (Isa 53:5-6)

However: in this hypothetical case; the man seeking release from the covenant is wanting to take up a new religion. How's he to that when he's dead?

Well; I can't speak for other religions, but if our hypothetical Jewish man is considering Christianity, then he's in luck because its lord and master has a solution for problems exactly like his. In some mysterious way that I've yet to fully understand; Christianity is fatal, viz: Christ's followers are reckoned joined with him during his death on the cross.

Rom 6:3-11 . . Don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? . . For we know that our old self was crucified with him

Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ

Col 3:2-3 . . Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

FAQ: What's to be done about the man's new curses?

A: Christ's followers are placed under the auspices of a new covenant wherein there are no curses for non compliance.

Jer 31:34 . . I will forgive their iniquity, and will remember their sin no more.

Rom 6:7 . . He that is dead is freed from sin.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself; not counting their trespasses against them.

The Greek word translated "counting" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means to take an inventory; i.e. an indictment.

John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life. _

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Gen 4:17 . .Then Cain's wife conceived and gave birth to a son, and they named him Enoch. When Cain founded a city, he named it Enoch; after his son.

The Hebrew word for this city is ambiguous. It can indicate a metropolis, an encampment and/or a frontier settlement.

On the pages of Scripture, Mrs. Cain's clan had nothing good to say about Abel's God; nor did they offer Him any presents, nor want Him in their homes, nor care how He might feel about anything. The Bible doesn't record even one single incident of Mrs. Cain's village blessing God for His goodness; nor for His mercy, nor for His providence.

There is no record that any of them ever said one single prayer-- not even a simple lay-me-down-to-sleep kind of prayer. Every one of the little kids in Enochville went to bed each night without the slightest assurance that their maker cared at all for the well being of their little souls. _

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Gen 39:6-20 tells the story of an immoral woman who destroyed the reputation of an innocent man in order to cover up her own indiscretions.

I should point out something that goes without saying. Women are not a protected species. When a bad girl like Potiphar's wife stands before God to answer for the way she ruined Joseph's reputation, she will be punished just as severely as if a man did it because there is no gender bias with God.

Rom 2:11 . . God does not show favoritism.

Eph 6:9 . . There is no favoritism with Him.

Col 3:25 . . Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrong, and there is no favoritism.

1Pet . .You call on a Father who judges each individual's work impartially,

Those verses tell me there will be just as many, if not more, women as men thrown into the reservoir of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 because women's gender won't be a mitigating factor when they face justice at the Great White Throne event.

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Judg 17:1-6 . . A man named Micah lived in the hill country of Ephraim. One day he said to his mother: I heard you curse the thief who stole eleven hundred pieces of silver from you. Well, here they are. I was the one who took them. The Lord bless you for admitting it; his mother replied.

. . . He returned the money to her, and she said: I now dedicate these silver coins to The Lord. In honor of my son, I will have an image carved and an idol cast. So his mother took two hundred of the silver coins to a silversmith, who made them into an image and an idol. And these were placed in Micah's house.

Micah's mother (I'll call her Ophelia) broke the very first commandment of the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy by making statuettes to represent God. (Ex 20:2-4)

The interesting thing about Ophelia's religious confusion is that Jehovah was her God; but in the wrong way; viz: her religion was a mixture of truth and error. The sad part is; Ophelia's mixed up religious beliefs didn't lead only just herself into disfavor with The Lord, no, it led her offspring into disfavor too.

Christians sometimes extol the mothers of the saints. Well let me tell you something about mothers. They may mean well; but just because they are mothers doesn't make them right. Ophelia is a timeless case in point. Mothers are the best Judas Goats one can imagine. They can lead their children to disaster with far more effectiveness than the demon world because mothers have the advantage of trust. Kids are naturally inclined to rely upon their parents, so they are easy victims of misinformation when the source of that misinformation are moms and dads-- most especially moms.

You know what can be even worse than going to Hell? Your own children following you there: and they trusted you. Can you just imagine the anguish that mothers feel in the netherworld knowing they brought up their children to follow an ideology whose pot at the end of the rainbow is filled with brimstone instead of gold. How do mothers bear up under something like that on their conscience? _

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Matt 10:39 . .Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

A major impediment for radical feminists becoming effective Christian disciples is Jesus' gender. You see, at the heart of feminism, is the drive to be independent of males. Yet the very lord and master of Christianity, the supreme male in the universe; demands death to a woman's self interests, and submission to his domineering control. Good luck on that one ladies.

Luke 14:26 . . If you want to be my follower you must love me more than your own father and mother, wife and children brothers and sisters-- yes, more than your own life. And you cannot be my disciple if you do take up your own cross and follow me.

In Jesus' day, crosses were for executions. So when Jesus told his disciples to "take up their own cross" it meant stifling their own way; viz: it was a call to abandon self interests, and follow their Master's leading.

Rom 12:1-2 . .Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God-- this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-- his good, pleasing and perfect will.

The bitter irony of it all is that God has delegated the task of humanity's final evaluation to His son; viz: in the end, it will be a male who casts condemned radical feminist women into Hell and permanently ruins any chances they might have had for happiness in the future. For all eternity, condemned radical feminist women will grind their teeth with hot tears and white knuckled fury that they ultimately lost out on everything because of one lone male's obsessive control over their lives. _

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2Tim 3:1-3 . . This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For people shall be . . .without natural affection

The Greek word translated "without natural affection" is astorgos (as'-tor gos) which means: hard-hearted towards kindred; viz: lacking in sympathetic understanding i.e. unfeeling, pitiless, thoughtless, insensitive, cruel, and inhumane.

There are actually kids growing up in homes right here in the USA where their parents never give them even one atta-boy. As a result, they grow up feeling ugly, unwanted, stupid, useless, marginal, expendable, and unnecessary.

There are also kids growing up in homes where mothers never hug them nor bother to take the time to forge a bond between mother and child. Thus they grow up with reactive attachment disorder; feeling convinced that no one could possibly ever love them or be their best friend forever. RAD kids grow up to become adults with some serious trust issues.

Maybe you don't burn your kids with cigarettes, pour Tabasco sauce in their eyes, or lock them in a hall closet without food and water for two days; but do you ignore their opinions, demean them with denigrating labels, ridicule them, threaten their lives, work them as slaves without compensation, deny them things just so you won't appear to indulge them, and/or say "no" to their requests for no good reason than that you don't want to seem weak and under their control?

Do you routinely abuse their human rights, and/or relegate them to the level of livestock rather than bona fide human beings with feelings and a mind of their own? Do you nurture within them a feeling of importance, of belonging in your home, or do you make them feel like an invasive species and/or an uninvited guest? Kids pick up on things like that.

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Rev 16:8-9 . .The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was given power to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify Him.

Rev 16:10-11 . .The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom was plunged into darkness. Men gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.

You know what's missing in those two scenarios? The element of fright is missing. The recipients of those acts of God actually get angry and resentful instead of scared.

Back in the sixth chapter, people panic and actually pray to be buried alive rather than face the wrath of God. But apparently by the time of the sixteenth chapter, they're over it. Well; no surprise there.

The first time I heard of Jesus' return I got nervous because, at the time, I had a lot to answer for. But the nervousness soon passed, and I became indignant because I don't like being made afraid; so I can sort of understand the people's change of mood between the sixth chapter and the sixteenth.

NOTE: The people in the sixteenth chapter are accused of refusing to repent and glorify God. What might that mean? Well; I suggest it means that the sensible thing to do in a situation like theirs is to fully agree we deserve it; like this:

"And I heard a voice from the altar saying: Yes, Lord God Almighty, your punishments are true and just." (Rev 16:7) _

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Righteousness and Justification are spoken of together in Rom 5:18 the same as they are in Rom 3:21-24. So then, if perchance someone is fortunate to obtain the righteousness, then they will automatically obtain the justification that goes along with it.

FYI: Righteousness pertains to innocence, and Justification pertains to acquittal.

For example: former US President Donald Trump was charged with insurrection. His accusers in the Senate failed to convict him, i.e. the majority voted for his innocence and consequently he was acquitted.

This is what God has done for some of us; except that He has declared us all guilty rather than innocent (Rom 3:23). However; via our faith in Jesus' blood as an adequate propitiation for our sins, God granted us an adjudication of innocence, and consequently an acquittal. It's all spelled out in Rom 3:21-28.

The first prayer I prayed that made some sense contained the words below:

"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's death"

My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but it was the smartest sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time. _

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The way I figure it: seeing as how God is an intelligent, mature adult (so to speak) who's never petty, nor capricious, nor biased, nor fickle, nor impulsive, nor unreasonable, and takes no kind of sick pleasure in causing people harm; then God must be just as stuck with Hell and can't make it go away with any more ease than we can.

For reasons I have yet to even guess, Hell is unavoidable even for God because it's the right thing to do; i.e. it has to be utilized for punishment in order to satisfy a level of justice that our limited little minds may never be able to fully grasp.

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1John 4:10 . . .This is love: God loved us when we didn't love Him, and sent His son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

There's two distinctly separate Greek words for love in that verse. The first is an abstract noun covering every aspect of love: affectionate and non affectionate

The second is a verb that speaks of benevolence sans any particular affection and/or fondness. This is the manner of love we're required to extend to everyone regardless of whether we like them or not.

In a nutshell, the love that God expressed in sending His son to die for sinners was an act of gratuitous kindness, care, pity, courtesy, and sympathy which should not be mistaken to indicate that He particularly likes any of us. In point of fact, God most likely detests a pretty good number of people; yet He's not indifferent to their safety because God is a neighborly sort of person. (Matt 5:44-48) _

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POSIT: It is God's desire that everyone be saved. (1Tim 2:4)

RESPONSE: It was likely God's desire that no one perish in the Flood, but many did anyway. _

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The global death toll due to the Coronavirus as of 10/23/21 is in the neighborhood of 4,955,909 . That represents approximately .0636% of the world's recent population of 7,797,890,635 people, which is not even one percent; in point of fact, a good deal less than one percent.

In the future, Heaven will cause the world to turn on itself in an apparent attempt to self-destruct with weapons, disease, famine, and wild animals that will cause fully 25% to perish; i.e. one fourth. (Rev 6:7)

If perchance the world's population in that day is the same as now, then 1,949,472,659 people will lose their lives before the calamity is over; in other words: 1.95 billion. That's something like 893 times the number of global Coronavirus deaths thus far.

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Rev 8:7 . . The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

Although that event is depicted as something completed already, it's actually yet future. The apostle John wrote of something he was shown; like describing a movie.

The Greek word translated "grass" includes not only lawns and pastures, but also crops; particularly cereals, i.e. those farmed primarily for their grain; e.g. corn, wheat, oats, rye, and rice; et al.

Apparently their destruction isn't beyond recovery because grasses show up again in a later calamity. (Rev 9:4)

The purpose seems to be the destruction of one whole year's worth of global harvest. That could be very bad for 3rd world folk who live hand to mouth, viz: those whose very survival depends upon regular yields.

The cost of grain will already be in a state of inflation prior to the global destruction of the grasses (Rev 6:6). The calamity described in Rev 8:7 will surely drive up the cost of food even higher; possibly to the point where quite a few people around the world won't be able to get enough to eat as often as they'd like.

One third of all trees are slated for destruction too; which no doubt will affect not only those used for lumber, but also fruit trees, e.g. fig, orange, apple, apricot, prune, peach, cherry, banana, and olives etc; along with a number of those that produce nuts. _

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1John 4:10 . . . God loved us when we didn't love Him, and sent His son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

The Greek verb for love in that passage speaks of benevolence sans any particular affection and/or fondness. This is the manner of love we're required to extend to everyone regardless of whether we like them or not.

In a nutshell, the love expressed in sending Christ to die for God's enemies was an act of gratuitous kindness, care, pity, courtesy, and sympathy which should not be mistaken to indicate that He particularly likes any of us. In point of fact, God most likely detests a pretty large number of people for whom Christ died; yet He's not indifferent to their safety because God is a neighborly sort of person. (Matt 5:44-48) _

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In several incidents, Jesus is recorded speaking of the afterlife by means of the Greek word háidēs (a.k.a. Hades) which was doubtless borrowed from Hellenistic influences prevalent in that day.

Hades was believed to be a conscious afterlife where everybody went when they died regardless of age, race, gender, or religious preference; which of course implies that not only was the rich man of Luke 16:19-31 in Hades but so were Abraham and Lazarus; even Jesus did some time there. (Matt 12:40 & Acts 2:25-31)

Hades is sometimes thought to speak of people's graves, but the correct Greek word for grave in the New Testament isn't Hades, it's actually mnemeion (mnay-mi' on), for example:

Matt 27:52-53 . . And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Matt 27:59-60 . . And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulcher, and departed.

John 11:18 . . Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already.

John 11:38 . . Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.

John 12:17 . . The people therefore that was with him when he called Lazarus out of his grave, and raised him from the dead, bare record.

Those are only a smattering of examples from the New Testament where grave is properly translated from mnemeion. Bible committees that render Hades as grave do so arbitrarily, i.e. by interpretation rather than by translation. Caveat Lector.

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Zech 1:5 . .Where are your forefathers now? And the prophets, do they live forever?

My own father is gone, and the great preacher Billy Graham; he's gone too. My favorite rock and roll guitar player during the years I was a teen-ager was Chuck Berry. He's gone. When I was a sophomore in high school, me and a buddy went to see "The Blob" starring a rather unknown actor at the time named Steve McQueen. He's gone. My eldest brother entered the Catholic priesthood and anon became a Friar. He's gone.

There's hardly a day goes by without someone passing away that at one time was very important to me; a constant reminder that nobody lives forever and neither will I. At my current age of 77, I'll be passing away not too long from now. Most of my life has already been lived and I'm in the home stretch. When I was a youngster, the horizon seemed forever far away; but now, looking at my wasting body, it seems I'm walking on the horizon's edge. _

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I would like it very much if my friends, associates, and loved ones down in Hades were allowed visitor days in the afterlife because after they're transferred to the lake of fire depicted at Rev 20:11-15, I may never get to be with them ever again.

Christians are sometimes asked how they can possibly be happy in Heaven while aware that their loved ones are imprisoned in an eternity of suffering. Well; Rev 21:4 predicts there will neither sorrow nor tears in the future cosmos, apparently made possible by starting over from scratch and leaving all else behind, including memories of the past.

Rev 21:5 . . He who was seated on the throne said: I am making everything new! Then he said: Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true. _

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In the story told at Luke 16-19-31, the beggar Lazarus died and was carried by angels to the afterlife. Curiously, the rich man's transportation isn't specified.

One of the most disturbing scenes I've yet to observe in a Hollywood movie occurs in "GHOST" starring Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore. When someone marked for the wrong side of the afterlife passes away, these eerie phantoms emerge, having the appearance of black oily smoke, uttering awful moans, and drag their panic-stricken captives down into the ground.

I don't know if that's how the rich man in Luke's story was transported, but if so; I can well imagine just how shocking and horrifying it must've been for him at death to suddenly be able to see menacing spirit creatures surrounding him with looks on their faces that could only convey but one unmistakable intent; and I suspect those sinister beings had been hovering around that poor man and stalking him every day and night of his entire life without him knowing it and patiently waiting for the green light to take him down.

Jude 1:9 relates a quarrel between the Devil and an archangel over the disposition of Moses' remains. No one really knows what that was all about but I'm suspecting that the Devil wanted to give Moses a pagan funeral, and likely felt he had a right to seeing as how he sincerely believes himself the world's supreme sovereign (Luke 4:5-6). So, I wonder if the angels that provided Lazarus transportation were not also assigned as security to protect him from being shanghaied by something similar to those dark mists depicted in "GHOST".

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Matt 5:8 . . Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

A rough-hewn definition of "pure in heart" is when someone is the same on the inside as they are on the outside; which is just the opposite of dissembling; defined as: to put on a false appearance, i.e. conceal facts, intentions, or feelings under some pretense.

Dissembling is a very common form of dishonesty which is practiced by just about everybody at one time or another. Most of us do not always want others to know what we are actually thinking and/or feeling about certain things. The very opposite of that is transparency, which most of us want from others, but prefer not to reciprocate with transparency of our own.

Here's a really good example of someone pure in heart.

"When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, he said of him, "Here is a true Israelite, in whom there is nothing false." (John 1:47)

Jesus was pure in heart too.

"No deceit was found in his mouth." (1Pet 2:22)

I think we may safely assume there are no exceptions to the sixth beatitude, i.e. no one is exempt; sincerity and forthrightness aren't optional with God; they're mandatory.

"Who may ascend into the hill of The Lord? And who may stand in His holy place? He who has . . a pure heart . . he shall receive a blessing from The Lord." (Ps 24:3-5) _

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I obtain quite a bit of useful information from YouTube; for example how to replace a microwave oven's motor, resolve a computer issue, and/or adjust an electric guitar's intonation.

I also tour the world with YouTube, visiting amazing man-made wonders and natural wonders too. I will likely never travel and get to see those wonders for myself as they really are before I'm dead; but out ahead is coming a one-thousand year era on Earth wherein I've no doubt there will be plenty of opportunity to see everything in the next life that I missed in this one.

Rev 20:6 . . Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

I suspect that God is keeping a massive, fully comprehensive library that can satisfy all my curiosity-- an archive of information far exceeding the contents of the great library of Alexandria. For example: how did the ancient Egyptians build the pyramids? How did the people of Easter Island move those massive stone heads into position? Is there an end to space; and if so, what's on the other side? Things like that; but also nature's secrets too. How did nature fashion those remarkable rock formations in Utah? Or carve out the Grand Canyon?

There are many mysteries like those that I sincerely hope to find answers to some day. But people in Hell won't be allowed access to God's library. They will never get answers to their deepest questions about the cosmos; nor be allowed to travel to all the exotic places on Earth that they missed in this life before passing on to the next.

Another benefit to the coming era is safety. I will have nothing to fear from the animal kingdom like I do now, and plus; those of us who make the cut will be immortal; so we won't fear heights, nor speed, nor any other risk. I love to explore, but don't like to explore places that might cost me my life, lose an eye, or put me in a wheel chair. Well; in the future, I'll be able to explore every corner of the globe to my heart's content in perfect safety and thoroughly enjoy myself without worrying about hazards associated with the journey like piranha, head hunters, frost bite, hypothermia, violent storms, hijackers, terrorists, bandits, and/or shipwreck.

One thing that prevents many of us from touring the world is old age. Well, diminished capacity will never again be a factor dictating what I can eat and drink, were I can go, nor whether I can make it.

Rev 20:5-6 . . But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.

People in Hell are not only in terrible discomfort, but they're also missing out on the pleasures of adventure, discovery, and exploration; which are three very stimulating activities that, just about everybody I've ever met would agree, make one's existence worthwhile. _

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Writing to the Christians in Colossi, Paul said:

"Do not lie to each other since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator." (Col 3:9-10)

Humanity's original self began its created existence in the image of God (Gen 1:26-27). In other words; Adam started off as an honest man. Clearly then; dishonesty doesn't reflect the image of God, rather, it reflects the Devil's image.

The Greek word translated "renewed" basically means to renovate; defined by Webster's defines as: (1) to restore to a former better state (as by cleaning, repairing, or rebuilding), and (2) to restore to life, vigor, or activity, i.e. revive.

The word appears in only one other place in the entire New Testament at 2Cor 4:16, which says:

"Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day."

Sometimes renovation requires demolition and beginning all over again from scratch, In other words: total regeneration.

The Greek word translated "knowledge" basically refers to recognition, i.e. acknowledgement, viz: discernment.

Reconstruction of one's innermost being-- especially the conscience --is essential because humanity's intuitive knowledge of what's acceptable and what's unacceptable is unreliable due to the forbidden fruit incident portrayed in the third chapter of Genesis.

This relates to one of the tragedies of Hell. People down there never gave God an opportunity to overhaul their spiritual condition; so now they're no better as persons in the afterlife than they were in this life. After all is said and done-- after the big judgment of Rev 20:11-15 is completed, and the new cosmos of Rev 21:1 is up and running --Christ caps everything by announcing:

"Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile." (Rev 22:10)

In other words: people who end up in the lake of fire will remain just as much in need of renovation there as they were here.

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Matt 22:36-40 . . Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Greek verb for "love" in that passage is agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o) which doesn't necessarily imply either affection and/or fondness. It's just as much about the way we treat our fellow men as our personal feelings about them. This is the kind of love that we ought to be extending to everyone-- friend, foe, and stranger alike. It's the very same love that Jesus taught in Matt 5:44 which reads:

"You have heard that it was said: You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies,"

In other words; you don't especially have to like your neighbors and your enemies, but you do have to be courteous, kind, charitable, tolerant, patient, diplomatic, tactful, gentle, reasonable, fair, deferent, cordial, genial, affable, sociable, helpful, thoughtful, sympathetic, considerate, and cooperative, etc. And of course those all apply to the way that people associate with God too because the same Greek verb is used of loving God as loving one's neighbors and enemies.

The above tells me that quite a few people are on the road to Hell simply because their manners are uncivil, and insufferable, with both God and Man, viz: they not only aren't nice to their fellow men, but they aren't even nice to God-- they don't care about marginalizing Him, tuning Him out, insulting Him, chafing Him, and/or hurting His feelings. In other words: the most important of all the commandments bounces off their thick skulls like a banana thrown at a Russian tank. _

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I was christened an infant into the Roman Catholic Church in 1944, and eventually attended catechism to complete First Holy Communion and Confirmation.

My siblings are Catholic, my mother was Catholic, my eldest brother entered the priesthood and made it to Friar before passing away in May 2018 of cancer. My wife is a former Catholic, her dad was Catholic, his wife was Catholic, my aunt and uncle were Catholics, and my wife's cousins are all in the Church; one of them is qualified to teach Catechism.

I was loyal to Rome up until I was 24, then one day I was approached by a Conservative Baptist minister who asked me if I was prepared for Christ's return.

Well; I must've been either asleep or absent the day that the nuns talked about Jesus coming back because that man's question was the very first time in my whole life that I can remember somebody telling me.

My initial reaction was alarm because I instinctively knew that were I called on the carpet for a face-to-face with Jesus, it would not go well for me because I had a lot to answer for. Well; I don't like being made to feel afraid so I became indignant and demanded to know why Jesus would come back. That's when I found out for the very first time that it was in the plan for Christ to take over the world. (I had somehow missed that in catechism too.)

Then the minister asked me if I was going to heaven. Well; of course I had no clue because Catholics honestly don't know what to expect when they pass away. I was crossing my fingers while in the back of my mind dreading the worst.

Then the man said; "Don't you know that Jesus died for your sins?"

Well; I had been taught in catechism that Jesus died for the sins of the world; that much I knew; but honestly believed all along that he had been a victim of unfortunate circumstances. It was a shock to discover that Jesus' trip to the cross was deliberate, and that his Father was thinking of me when His son passed away, viz: my sins were among the sins of the world that Jesus took to the cross with him.

At that very instant-- scarcely a nanosecond --something took over in my mind as I fully realized, to my great relief, that heaven was no longer out of reach, rather, well within my grasp!

That was an amazing experience. In just the two or three minutes of conversation with that Baptist minister, I obtained an understanding of Jesus' crucifixion that many tedious years of catechism classes had somehow failed to get across. Consequently, my confidence in the Roman Catholic Church was shattered like a bar of peanut brittle candy dropped on the sidewalk from the tippy top of the Chrysler building.

Long story short; I eventually went with that man to his church and, side by side with him and a couple of elders, knelt at the rail down front and prayed a really simple, naive prayer that went something like this;

"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's death"

My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but it was the smartest sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time.

Matt 10:32 . .Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. _

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John 18:37-38 . . Everyone who is of the truth hears my voice. Pilate said to him: What is truth?

Pilate's question was meaningful in his day because ancient philosophers perpetually discussed and debated the nature of truth without ever achieving a unanimous decision about it.

Well; one of Webster's definitions of "truth" is: a state of being the case; viz: fact; which Webster's defines as the quality of being actual. In other words: truth is the way it is; viz: truth is reality as opposed to speculation, fantasy, opinion, error, inaccuracy, inexactness, theory, imagination, and false impressions, etc.

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
No escape from reality.

Bohemian Rhapsody
Freddy Mercury, Brian May, John Deacon, Roger Taylor
QUEEN, 1975

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Matt 8:11-12 . . I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

"children of the kingdom" is thought by some to speak of the Jews. Well; for sure, not all of them will permitted access to the kingdom predicted in the Ol Testament. According to Ezek 20:33-38 a number of them will be culled from the herd and sent elsewhere.

Outer darkness is again spoken of in Matt 22:13 and Matt 25:30

It appears, from comparison of the available data, that "outer darkness" isn't a location, rather, a state of mind characterized by the deepest possible feelings of anguish and grief associated with loss.

It's akin to the day that God announced to Moses' people they were going to have to stay in that awful Sinai outback until they were dead. They missed their opportunity to enter the land of milk and honey and there was no way to regain it.

The people must've been pretty upset over that; no doubt they had all been joyfully looking forward to a new life over there; and there was no use in praying about it because God had made up His mind.

I've only experienced deep personal grief associated with irreversible loss but one time; that was when my No.1 nephew passed away suddenly of natural causes at the age of 51. I had held him in my arms upon returning home from three years in the Army when he was only a couple of weeks old.

News of his passing has thus far been the only time in my 77 years that I actually clenched my teeth, sobbing out of control, and choking, while clinging to a handrail in the front room to keep from losing my balance and falling to the floor.

Fortunately my wife was out on an errand at the time or she would've been very frightened as she has never seen me in such a state even once during our 41+ years of marriage. _

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The criminal records associated with the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 likely won't be used only to condemn people's actions, but also to prove that the people themselves are not the caliber of folk with whom God prefers to associate.

For example; God isn't comfortable with dishonesty. So if the records show that someone was deceptive and/or told a number lies during their lifetime, then they will be barred from heaven; not only for their dishonesty, but also because they are capable of dishonesty.

Prov 6:16-19 . . There are six things The Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

Ps 15:1-3 . . Lord, who may dwell in your sanctuary? Who may live on your holy hill? He whose walk is blameless and who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from his heart and has no slander on his tongue, who does his neighbor no wrong and casts no slur on his fellowman, who despises a vile man but honors those who fear The Lord, who keeps his oath even when it hurts, who lends his money without usury and does not accept a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things will never be shaken. _

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FAQ: The New Testament says that the lost will be put to death in a lake of brimstone. (Rev 20:11-15.) If that's so, then why is it commonly believed that they will suffer till time without end? Don't people have to be alive in order to experience suffering?

A: People's body and soul are slated for destruction in hell fire (Matt 10:28) but I have yet to encounter a New Testament passage verifying that people's consciousness will be destroyed.

FAQ: How can people be conscious when they're dead? Isn't death eo ipso a state of unconsciousness?

A: I have never been dead so I cannot speak from experience about that condition. All I know about existence after death is what I read in the Bible.

Human life consists of three components: body, soul, and spirit. Matt 10:28 speaks of destroying people's body and soul while saying nothing about their spirit component. Genesis 2:7 strongly suggests that the spirit is where human consciousness resides; and Luke 16:19-31 suggests that one's spirit is transferrable to an afterlife existence.

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FAQ: The New Testament says that the lost will be put to death in a lake of brimstone. (Rev 20:11-15.) If that's so, then why is it commonly believed that they will suffer till time without end? Don't people have to be alive in order to experience suffering?

A: People's body and soul are slated for destruction in hell fire (Matt 10:28) but I have yet to encounter a New Testament passage verifying that people's consciousness will be destroyed.

FAQ: How can people be conscious when they're dead? Isn't death eo ipso a state of unconsciousness?

A: I have never been dead so I cannot speak from experience about that condition. All I know about existence after death is what I read in the Bible.

Human life consists of three components: body, soul, and spirit. Matt 10:28 speaks of destroying people's body and soul while saying nothing about their spirit component. Genesis 2:7 strongly suggests that the spirit is where human consciousness resides; and Luke 16:19-31 suggests that one's spirit is transferrable to an afterlife existence.

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A rich man, in the story located at Luke 16:19-31, passed away and was buried. (Luke 26:22)

Though his corpse lay in repose; the man himself is depicted in the afterlife fully conscious and capable of intelligent thought and conversation; with his memories intact, with eyes that see, a tongue that needs water, a nervous system sensitive to temperature, and an emotional state capable of anxiety.

That all runs counter to passages in the Old Testament that seem to imply that people lose their sentient characteristics when they pass away. How do we deal with this apparent discrepancy between the Old Testament and the New?

Well, first off we need to deal with the fact that:

1» Christ is God's final word to mankind (John 3:31-34 & Heb 1:1-2)

2» He's greater than even Moses (Heb 3:3)

3» He's the incarnated voice of God (John 1:1 & John 1:14)

4» He's smarter than Solomon (John 3:31 & Matt 12:42 & Col 2:3)

5» He was involved in the creation of the cosmos with all of its forms of life, matter, and energy (John 1:1-3, Heb 3:3-4)

6» He has actually seen the afterlife for himself; therefore knowing from experience what he's talking about rather than something he read in a book. (Mark 1:21-22)

From all that, I think that we can safely conclude that Christ's teachings trump everybody else's teachings. So then, when it appears that the Old Testament contradicts Christ, I strongly suggest, for safety's sake, that we align ourselves with Christ.

Matt 17:5 . .This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him.

John 3:34 . . For he is sent by God. He speaks God's words, for God's Spirit is upon him without measure or limit

John 3:36 . . He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. _

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God's free will trumps everybody else's free will. This fact is very evident in the confrontation that Jehovah forced between Himself and the Egyptian monarch holding Moses' people captive.

"For the scripture says to Pharaoh: For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth. So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires." (Rom 9:17-18)

That's a reference to Exodus 9:13-17 where it says:

"Then Jehovah said to Moses: Rise up early in the morning and stand before Pharaoh and say to him, "Thus says the Jehovah, the God of the Hebrews; let My people go, that they may serve Me. For this time I will send all My plagues on you and your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like Me in all the earth.

. . . For if by now I had put forth My hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, you would then have been cut off from the earth. But, indeed, for this cause I have allowed you to remain, in order to show you My power, and in order to proclaim My name through all the earth. Still you exalt yourself against My people by not letting them go." (Ex 9:13-17)

There's some interesting information tucked away in Jehovah's proclamation. The most notable is that He could've simply wiped the Egyptians off the map with just one miracle and been done with it. But instead, Jehovah chose to whittle them down piece by piece, a little at a time, and just to make sure His intentions succeeded; Jehovah deliberately, and willfully, strengthened Pharaoh's resolve to resist and not give in.

Someone, somewhere, is sure to demand: How can God condemn Pharaoh's stubborn will to resist when it was God himself who strengthened the man to do so?

The thing is; Pharaoh was already condemned for refusing Moses' initial request. From that point on he was dead meat-- Jehovah could say "I own you" and it became His sovereign prerogative to do with the man as He pleased because God's free will trumps everybody else's free will.

Now the situation is this: there are people out and about who have been presented an intelligent gospel message, and turned from it. Those people have put themselves at risk of God himself deliberately, and willfully, stiffening their resolve to the point where they will never be able to accept the gospel-- ever! Thus their destiny in Hell becomes a sealed fate.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Heb 10:31)

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Many years ago it occurred to me that even if I was able to force myself to be pious enough during this life to qualify for Heaven; I was pretty sure I couldn't keep it up for eternity. Sooner or later my true colors would show themselves and I'd get evicted, viz: cast into outer darkness.

So I decided to forget about Heaven and just go about my life as usual; resigned to expect the worst when I passed away.

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FAQ: Am I allowed to have an opinion?

A: Yes.

REPLY: Well then; the creator depicted in Bible knew ahead of time, by means of precognition, that the human life He was about to create would all have to die because of just one man's sin,

. . . and the human life He was about to create would become so bad that He would have to exterminate most of it in a global deluge,

. . . and the human life He was about to create would be suffering with diseases, poverty, wars, famines, and oppression,

. . . and much of the human life that He was about to create would end up in Hell, then later on restored to their bodies only to be executed by a mode of death akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of molten iron,

. . . and proven Himself to be quite capable of walking over people's bones to get what He wants,

. . . and to top it off: has the chutzpa to advertise Himself as a god of love, concern, compassion, and sympathy.

I can't respect the creator depicted in the Bible because he's cruel, fiendish, and criminally insane.

RESPONSE: So in your honest opinion the creator depicted in the Bible is a tyrannical despot far more dangerous than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, and/or North Korea's Kim Jong-un?

REPLY: YES!

RESPONSE: Well then, it appears to me that you test positive for the so called fallen nature.

Rom 8:7 . .The sinful mind is hostile to God. _

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FAQ: What if I was born dishonest?

A: You mean like this?

Ps 58:3 . . The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies go astray from birth.

Then I suggest you take advantage of whatever time you have remaining to begin preparing yourself for the worst when you pass on.

Rev 21:8 . . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. _

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Rev 21:1-3 . . Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

Rev 21:27 . . Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is deceitful,

Rev 22:15 . . Outside is everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Those passages are really bad news for natural-born liars because dishonesty and deception are pretty much the only way of life they know.

FAQ: What's on the "outside" referred to in Rev 22:15?

A: I suggest that outside refers to banishment, i.e. exile to the sum of all fears.

Rev 21:8 . . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

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FAQ: What if Adam had eaten some fruit from the tree of life prior to trying the forbidden fruit?

A: The tree of life doesn't work like a vaccine, rather, it's a remedy; portrayed in the Bible as a treatment for whatever ails you. (Rev 22:2)

In other words; under normal circumstances Adam had no use for the tree of life at first because he was already in perfect health. Adam was created impervious to death; an advantage he lost by tampering with the forbidden fruit when he was instructed not to.

Gen 2:16-17 . . And the Lord God commanded the man: You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.

Well; Adam didn't drop dead to the floor when he ate the forbidden fruit. In point of fact he continued to live 800 more years beyond the birth of his son Seth. (Gen 5:4)

So the death that Adam underwent due to tasting the forbidden fruit began with his loss of perfect health, i.e. Adam's body became infected with mortality which, if left untreated, is 100% fatal. Mortality is a living death that gradually broke Adam down to the point where his body could no longer keep going.

The tree of life wouldn't prevent Adam from contracting mortality, but the tree would've cured it and restored him to perfect health, but alas he wasn't permitted to take advantage of it. _

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FAQ: Human sacrifices are not allowed in the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Since Jesus was a Jew whose religion was governed by that covenant, then how was it legal for him to die for the sins of the world?

A: The laws of God are not retroactive (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17) This is extremely important because Jesus was designated, and scheduled, to die on a cross prior to God creating even a single atom for the current cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21 & Rev 13:8) _

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Insensitive folk who come from the womb unable to feel compassion, are in very grave danger of the sum of all fears.

Matt 5:7 . . Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

Jas 2:13 . . For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy.

As an experiment, keep an ear attuned for people who respond to the news of someone's misfortune by saying "It could've been worse." That's a sympathy-challenged person.

NOTE: There are a number instructional web sites offering lists of helpful do's and don'ts to assist sympathy-challenged people to at least respond properly to others' misfortunes.

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FAQ: Did Adam know it was wrong to taste the forbidden fruit?

A: Right and wrong were irrelevant in the beginning. Adam's early life was steered, not by his conscience, rather, by sovereign oversight.

Had Adam's creator instructed him to eat human flesh, then the responsibility for his diet would've fallen upon God. In other words; God's sovereignty served as Adam's conscience. As to whether cannibalism is morally right and/or morally wrong wouldn't have been for Adam to decide. (cf. Acts 10:9-15)

Isa 48:17 . . I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is good and leads you along the paths you should follow. _

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Rev 20:13 . . I saw the dead, and they were judged, every one of them

That verse says that "every one" of them were judged. Well; I don't know precisely how many every one will eventually entail, but let's say that it's the number of new arrivals posted in the last update.

If each of those 8,486,400 judgments were to take an hour to complete, we'd be looking at 353,600 calendar days, i.e. 968 solar years-- that's if the judging goes around the clock 24/7/365.

Just think of that. In only 136 days since beginning the thread, enough cases have accumulated on our hypothetical docket to keep the great white throne busy a minimum of 9.6 centuries. Of course that's only for starters because the update doesn't take into account the number of lost souls prior to July 03, 2021 and going all the way back to Adam.

I once commented to a Christian friend about how long it might take for God to judge the whole world. My friend responded: Well; he has plenty of time. _

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Rev 20:13 . . I saw the dead, and they were judged, every one of them

There's a few points related to that scene worth special mention.

1» According to Jude 1:14-15 the dead will be given a fair trial.

2» According to Matt 12:36, every word that the dead have spoken will be used as evidence both against them and/or for them; not just their serious words, but also their careless words.

3» The scene doesn't depict one future out of a variety of possible futures; no, it depicts the actual future.

A Danger Foreseen
Is Half Avoided.
Cheyenne Proverb

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1Kings 22:18-23 . . I saw Jehovah sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left. And Jehovah said: Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said this while another said that.

. . .Then a spirit came forward and stood before Jehovah and said: I will entice him.

. . . And Jehovah said to him: How?

. . . And he said; I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.

. . .Then He said: You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.

. . . Now therefore, behold, Jehovah has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and Jehovah has proclaimed disaster against you.

That scene depicts a very strange alliance. God actually recruited someone from the demon world to do some dirty work for Him: a black op, so to speak. That suggests to me that the demon world is neither totally useless nor totally in Satan's control; some are actually assets, which can be defined as something useful in an effort to foil or defeat an enemy: such as a piece of military equipment, a spy, or an assassin.

It's likely that God still manages some of His affairs like that even today when He wants certain individuals destroyed without getting His hands dirty. For example from post No.1 it's seen that some folks are on a road to Hell while others are on a road to something better, i.e. the few and the many. I really have to wonder if maybe some of those many on the road to Hell weren't talked into going that way by spirits recruited by God to do it for Him. Now that's scary. Can you just imagine the horror of being targeted like that and not aware of it! (cf. 2Thess 2:8-12) _

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Canadian folk singer Gordon Lightfoot released a sentimental song back in 1975 that speaks volumes about sympathy. Its lyrics are very touching. Here's a few that I feel especially appropriate when talking about things like sickness, death, and the hereafter.

Rainy day people always seem to know when it's time to call.
Rainy day people don't talk, they just listen till they've heard it all.
Rainy day lovers don't lie when they tell 'ya they've been down like you.
Rainy day people don't mind if you're cryin' a tear or two.

I sometimes wonder how much sympathy one can expect in the fiery netherworld. I mean; sure they'll understand how we might feel about the unfortunate circumstances in life that led us down there, but once you're there, everyone's pretty much in the same boat and they're all longing for sympathy too.

In point of fact, I'd not be surprised if the competition for sympathy down there is on the level of dog eat dog; and likely a fair number of sympathy hoarders demanding total market share of it. I can just hear their feigned indignity; like this:

"Oh, stop whining already! Don't be such a baby. I deserve a lot more pity than you. I've been down here for two millennia and you've only been down here for a decade. What've you got to cry about? You should be grateful that your time down here will end up shorter than mine."

I'd imagine that after a few years in that place the only sympathy that people can feel after a while is sympathy for themselves because nobody is getting out down there; they're all lifers so it's not unlikely that the only humanity that inmates pay forward in that place is misery. _

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Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Few and Many are relative quantities regardless of their amounts.

For example; no matter how many people are represented by the great crowd depicted at Rev 7:9-10, their number will be less than the number of folk represented by the dead depicted at Rev 20:11-15.

In other words: the number of people ultimately saved will be less than the number of people ultimately lost no matter how big or little their respective numbers turn out to be.

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1Cor 1:26 . . Remember, dear brothers and sisters, that few of you were wise in the world's eyes, or powerful, or wealthy when God called you.

Faith in Christ isn't an achievement like a Nobel prize in chemistry nor as if one ran for public office or climbed a corporate ladder. None of us would be an integral member of Christ's body were it not for God's incredible IQ and His access to a remarkable variety of supernatural resources.

"God alone made it possible for you to be in Christ Jesus. For our benefit God made Christ to be wisdom itself; he is the one who made us acceptable to God. He made us pure and holy, and he gave himself to purchase our freedom." (1Cor 1:30-31) _

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Education and/or a high IQ have their uses; but are insufficient when it comes to spiritual matters. In point of fact, those kinds of wisdom can actually be an impediment. Take for example Carl Sagan. Had his knowledge and his IQ been a spiritual advantage, then Carl would've stood on the side of intelligent design instead of opposing it.

It's tragic that Carl went to his grave with his curiosity and so many scientific questions about the cosmos unanswered, and to top it off, a day is coming when even Carl's pale blue dot will no longer be available for study.

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away." (Rev 21:1)

Can you imagine how delighted Carl would've been to explore Heaven's libraries where everything to know that can be known about the cosmos is stored? But alas, Carl will never find out because he was at best an agnostic, at worst an atheist. _

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2Cor 5:11 . . Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;

The Greek word translated "knowing" means to know firsthand, viz: by experience rather than by education and/or instruction.

In other words; there were incidents at various times in the lives of Paul and his contemporaries when God frightened them, i.e. scared 'em out of their wits.

I have been challenged on occasion as to how I know for sure that my religion is true. Well; there's nothing like a good old fashioned close encounter of a third kind to convince even the most resistant skeptics; and Paul's history attests that his was a really stubborn case.

Of course if any of us were to claim to "know" the terror of the Lord, we'd be singled out as kooks and crackpots; but for some of us, fear is the only persuasion that works.

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Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale that cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of New York City. Just imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond belief; and a great many of the dead will be infants and underage children.

The Bible says that we should consider not only God's benevolence, but also His severity. We're dealing with a someone far more terrifying than even North Korea, Communist China, and/or regimes in Africa.

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Years ago it wasn't unusual to be called a religious fanatic for believing the Genesis account of the creation of Man. Well; recently somebody online called me an ignorant bigot because I stand by the Bible's physical gender designations and refuse to accept the new political designations, e.g. transgender and non binary

Do they seriously think that the One who intelligently designed the cosmos-- all of its forms of life, matter, and energy --won't have the last word on their gender identity?

Ps 2:1-5 . . Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against The Lord, and against His anointed, saying: Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure. _

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When God is ignored; He can be expected to reciprocate.

Prv 1:24-33 . . I called you so often, but you didn't come. I reached out to you, but you paid no attention. You ignored my advice and rejected the correction I offered. So I will laugh when you are in trouble! I will mock you when disaster overtakes you-- when calamity overcomes you like a storm, when you are engulfed by trouble, and when anguish and distress overwhelm you.

. . . I will not answer when they cry for help. Even though they anxiously search for me, they will not find me. For they hated knowledge and chose not to fear The Lord. They rejected my advice and paid no attention when I corrected them. That is why they must eat the bitter fruit of living their own way. They must experience the full terror of the path they have chosen. For they are simpletons who turn away from me-- to death. They are fools, and their own complacency will destroy them. But all who listen to me will live in peace and safety, unafraid of harm.

Case in point is Mr. Esau.

"Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears." (Heb 12:16-17)

The Greek word translated "repentance" is metanoia (met-an'-oy-ah) which essentially means to change one's mind; viz: to reconsider.

Esau was secular to the bone. But he "got religion" right quick when he saw his way of life costing him the blessing; but alas, the poor slob was a day late and a dollar short; so to speak.

Lesson to be learned: The time for people to believe in Hell is not when they get there, rather, before they get there. _

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Gen 38:15 . .When Judah saw her, he thought she was a prostitute, for she had covered her face.

The particular kind of prostitute in this episode is from the Hebrew word qedeshah (ked-ay-shaw') which isn't your typical working girl, but rather a devotee raising money for an established religion (Gen 38:21) typically a pagan kind of religion centered upon the worship of a goddess like Ashtoreth (a.k.a. Astarte). So one might say that a qedeshah's services were for a worthy cause.

Gen 38:16-17 . . Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by the roadside and said: Come now, let me sleep with you. And what will you give me to sleep with you? she asked. I'll send you a young goat from my flock; he said. Will you give me something as a pledge until you send it? she asked.

The Hebrew word for "pledge" in that passage is 'arabown (ar-aw-bone') which means property given as security-- viz: collateral --as in a pawn shop or a bank loan. This is the very first place in the Bible where that word is used. In the usury business, an 'arabown is forfeited if the borrower fails to repay his loan; i.e. make good on his promise. This is a very important element in the divine plan.

"In him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory." (Eph 1:13-14)

The Greek word for "pledge" in that passage is arrhabon (ar-hrab-ohn') which means essentially the same as the Hebrew word 'arabown except that the Greek word indicates a little something extra.

Real estate transactions usually involve a sum called the earnest money. Although it may be applied towards the purchase price of property, earnest money itself serves a specific purpose of its own in the real estate business. In some quarters; this is also called good-faith money.

When the contract, and all the other necessary documents are submitted to Escrow, the buyer is required to also submit a token amount of the purchase price. It's usually a relatively small number of dollars compared to the full price of the property. I think ours was just $1,000 back in 1988 on a $74,000 home. When the buyer follows through on their intent to purchase the property, the good-faith money (minus some Escrow fees of course) goes towards the purchase.

However, if the buyer decides to renege, then they forfeit the good faith money. No doubt that's done to discourage vacillating buyers from fiddling around with other people's time and money.

So then, since God's Spirit is the earnest depicted in Eph 1:13-14; then, according to the principles underlying the arrhabon, should God betray a believer's trust by reneging on His promise to spare people who hear and believe the gospel, then He forfeits; and the believer gets to keep the Spirit regardless of their afterlife destiny.

But of course God won't renege because doing so would not only embarrass Himself, but embarrass His son too as Jesus has given his word that believers have nothing to fear.

"I assure you, those who heed my message, and believe in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life." (John 5:24)

There are people who actually believe the Bible's God is capable of reneging on His promises. A belief of that nature of course eo ipso insinuates that He lacks integrity, i.e. the Bible's God isn't totally honest and can't be trusted to make good on anything He says.

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John 3:16 . . For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The love in that passage is conjugated from the Greek verb agapao, which informs me that God experiences compassion for the world without particularly liking anybody. In other words: agapao is civil and sympathetic but doesn't necessarily express fondness or affection. _

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People penned up in the fiery section of Hades may or may not be fully aware of all they've lost. Many are doubtless aware of at least their loss of immortality; but I'm not so sure they know about the bulk of their loss because not even that many Christians are aware of all they've gained by their association with Christ.

We today are living in what's sometimes called the church age; which is an era that began with the day of Pentecost per Acts 2:1-2 wherein Christ has been busy assembling the "my church" he spoke of in Matt 16:18.

The "my church" is very fortunate because it is a joint-heir (a.k.a. heir in common) with God's son in his Father's estate. (Eph 1:11 and Rom 8:16 17)

A joint-heir is different than a regular heir. Regular heirs are apportioned an individual percentage of their benefactor's estate. But joint-heirs inherit, not a percentage, but the entire estate, as community property, i.e. whatever the Father bequeathed His son, He bequeathed everyone associated with His son.

For example: supposing a benefactor's estate totals 60 acres of land, 18 gold bars, plus a hedge fund worth 200,000 US Dollars; and he left it all to six heirs in common. In that situation; the heirs are corporately one beneficiary instead of six; viz: all six inherit all the land, all the gold, and the entire fund as if each one were the only heir.

The extent of the Father's estate is astonishing. It encompasses not only all that is in Heaven, but also whatever pertains to the new cosmos spoken of in Isa 66:17, 2Pet 3:13, and Rev 21:1; and I don't know what else.

John 3:35 . .The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.

John 16:15 . . All things that the Father has are mine

Heb 2:5 . . It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come

It's a good thing that God's son has been appointed chief executive officer of his Father's estate because I don't think anybody else among men could ever be relied upon to manage it properly.

Point being: disbelievers in today's era who fail to be accepted into the "my church" will end up as deprived paupers in the afterlife, whereas those associated with God's son will be members of a powerful oligarchy-- wealthy and privileged beyond imagination. _

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FAQ: The Bible says that a Christian's life on earth terminated the day they came to faith in Christ; and from the day on, God stopped keeping a record of their sins. (Rom 6:3-7, Col 3:3, and 2Cor 5:19). What about the afterlife? What's to be done about the sins Christians commit there?

A: When Christians undergo the supernatural birth about which Christ spoke at John 3:3-8, they are imperceptibly regenerated with a nature that not only doesn't sin, but cannot sin.

"The one who practices sin is of the Devil; for the Devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, that he might destroy the works of the Devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1John 3:7-9)

Two fathers are on view in that passage. The first is the Devil; identified in the third chapter of the book of Genesis as the Serpent (Rev 12:9). Human nature as we know it among ourselves, was fathered by the Devil; which explains why humans are natural-born sinners.

The second father is God, identified in the first chapter of Genesis as the supreme being responsible for creating the cosmos-- all its forms of life, matter, and energy. The nature of God, as we know it, is 110% sinless.

Jas 1:13 . . God cannot be tempted with evil

Titus 1:2 . . God cannot lie

The human nature and the nature of God are not joined at the hip as an amalgam of good and evil. God separates the two natures by means of a rather unusual form of circumcision (Col 2:11) making it possible for Christians to enter the afterlife as 100% righteous people.

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Jesus sacrificed his life for the whole world; not just part of the world, but everybody who has ever lived, and everybody who will ever live, down to the last born on Earth. That says quite a bit about how Jesus feels about me.

He may not like me-- at all. In point of fact Jesus just may quite despise me, and candidly declare that I am not the kind of people with whom he cares to associate. Nevertheless, Jesus went to the cross for me too in spite of his disgust for me as a person.

Now, as I said-- in so many words --Jesus may not be especially fond of me, but there's no doubt in my mind that he at least cares for me. So I played upon his Father's sympathies back in February of 1968 when I prayed a very selfish prayer that went something like this:

"God; I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's death."

Seeing as how Jesus gave his life for the whole world, then God couldn't very well refuse my request; now could He.

Rom 5:6-8 . . Christ died for the impious. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. _

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In the second chapter of the book of Daniel is told the story of Nebuchadnezzar's dream. He demanded his wise men to tell him the interpretation of the dream but withheld the dream's details; without which they could not answer.

But God had observed the king's dream; and revealed its details, along with its interpretation, to Daniel.

Prior to the invention of radio and television, it was likely thought entirely miraculous that God is able to observe the brain's imaginations, but now I'm not so sure. Modern technology has led me to suspect that the human brain broadcasts signals that can, with appropriate equipment, be received and processed into sound and pictures that can then be observed and/or recorded like episodes of Murder She Wrote and the Good Witch.

Modern technology has actually helped to make God's ability to observe dreams far more believable than ever before. Plus, if the brain is sending signals, then it can likely receive them too, so that God can send a dream, or an imagination, or a vision, or a bright idea to your head with little more difficulty than a cell phone sending a video of your vacation in Tahiti to friends back east in New Hampshire.

Don't laugh. There was a time when it was thought impossible to fly to the moon; that is until the Russians successfully launched their first Sputnik back in October of 1957. _

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Seeing as how God owns everything in existence, and answers to no one how He goes about managing it all; then what He says goes because nobody can stop Him from making and/or enforcing whatever rules He wishes because God's free will trumps everybody else's free will.

Whether God's ways and means are loving, moral, just, and/or right and wise doesn't matter. It's as futile to criticize lightning for being so bright, and thunder for being so loud, as it is to criticize God's rules because no matter how much people complain about thunder and lightning; there is nothing they can do to stop those forces of nature from going about their business.

Acts 4:24 . .They lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said: Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

The Greek word translated "Lord" in that passage is despotes (des-pot'-ace) from which we get our English word despot; defined by Webster's as a ruler with absolute power and authority.

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For many of us working stiffs, the first day on a new job is stressful and quite an adjustment. The night before that first day can cause enough anxiety to keep us awake worrying about what we might expect.

I'd imagine that, whether we end up in the right place or the wrong place in the afterlife, we will be just as stressed on our first day there as the first day here on a new job.

The anxiety associated with death is to be expected seeing as how most of us have no experience at all with that particular journey. But I think the majority of my anxiety in regards to death is related to what comes after. Pity there are no guide books available in print to prepare us in advance for the culture-shock tsunami with which we are sure to be slammed. _

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Christianity is sometimes criticized as a license to steal because when people come to faith in Christ, the file that God has been accumulating against them gets demolished and from thence He does not begin compiling a new file.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them

The Greek word translated "counting" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means to take an inventory; i.e. an indictment.

2Cor 5:19 is quite an advantage because when there are no books on people, then there is nothing on record with which to accuse them, i.e. it's as though they've never been anything but 100% innocent, viz: blameless.

This may seem like cooking the books, but God has a way to do it on the up and up without obstructing justice. _

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Luke 16:26 . . Between us and you a great chasm has been fixed

The barrier between Abraham's side of the netherworld and the rich man's is curious. The Greek word is located nowhere else in the entire New Testament so we can't compare it's application in other situations.

Chasm isn't necessarily a crevasse like a gorge or a canyon. It can also represent a marked division, separation, or difference; for example there is a political chasm between China's communist party and China's regular citizens.

A chasm then, can be likened to the contrast between good and evil, right and wrong, wise and foolish, hate and love, the condemned and the innocent, the one true God and the many fake gods, the alive to God and the dead to God.

Anyway, this barrier in Luke's story isn't so expansive that people cannot recognize familiar faces on the opposite side nor hear their voice. And if it's a literal gulf, then I think it's reasonable to assume people have been trying to jump in to get away from the flames.

The Bible says that God desires all men to be saved and that He derives no pleasure from their misfortunes. However, once folks are lost in the netherworld, God's attitude towards them takes quite a turn. Folks in Hell are dead to God, and apparently He wants them to be dead to us too; even our loved ones and the BFFs for whom we care the most, i.e. fraternizing of any kind with the other side is not allowed.

Luke 16:26 . .Those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.

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I sometimes encounter Christians talking about people suffering in Hell forever as if folks down there have eternal life, No, they don't have eternal life; they have human life; which is a kind of life vastly inferior to eternal life. Human life is corruptible whereas eternal life isn't.

Jas 1:13 . . God cannot be tempted with evil

Titus 1:2 . . God cannot lie

People in Hell are not only fully capable of evil, but they're also quite capable of dishonesty.

Rev 21:8 . . But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. _

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I once heard a minister tell the story of a fictional busload of Hell's inmates who were given a 30 day furlough for some R&R in Heaven. They all came back the first night because God's world was such a bore.

There were no wild parties, no clothing-optional beaches, no bars, no night clubs, no porn, no gambling, no pigging-out at buffets, no fights, no profanity, no ribaldry, no free sex, no vulgar late-night comedy, no exotic dancers, no X-rated movies, no junk food, no tobacco, no marijuana, no meth, no ecstasy, no LSD, no hunting for sport, no fishing for sport, and no vices like gambling and prostitution.

And they had trouble seeing their way around. The light in Heaven was so bright that they had to protect their eyes all the time with thick dark glasses.

And the hellsters didn't particularly care for the isolation. None of the good folk in Heaven wanted to associate with them: they were ostracized, they were segregated, and they were quarantined.

Heaven is a pleasant utopia. It's etiquette, its dress code, and its rules of conduct and civility; were way too strict for the hellsters. Especially suffocating is the mandatory self control everyone has to exercise in their choice of words to avoid hurting people's feelings.

In other words: Heaven is a place prepared for a prepared people. Normal people would quite naturally find God's world disagreeable-- they just wouldn't fit in; especially with its lack of privacy, its 24-7 Big Brother oversight, and its strict codes of conduct.

Take for example Wall Street barracudas. Do you really think they'd be happy in Heaven? Or sweat shop operators? Or influence peddlers? Or lobbyists? Or J-walking pedestrians? Or LGBTQ? Or greedy businessmen like Phil Knight, Bill Gates, and/or Jeff Bezos? Or unscrupulous social networking moguls like Mark Zuckerberg? Or cheap politicians? Or Communists? Or bookies? Or hoarders? Or black marketers? Or militant activists? Or Critical Race theorists? Or 1619 Project proponents? No. No. No. You see many of the interests that concern Hell's people are unacceptable in Heaven; and in point of fact, none of Heaven's people even want to hear about that stuff.

You know what else is lacking in Heaven? Religious tolerance. There is only one religion up there. What's that tell you? Well; it tells me that the establishment clause of the US Constitution's first amendment doesn't fly in Heaven. The theocratic monarchy in Heaven insists upon dictating everyone's religious preference.

In other words: Heaven's utopian society, coupled with its 24/7 Big Brother oversight, was just simply too much to ask in exchange for some time off. To the hellsters, Heaven held little more appeal for a get-away than one of North Korea's prison camps. _

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Luke 16:26 . . Between us and you a great chasm has been fixed

Luke portrays only a small portion of the geography where Abraham and the rich man conversed; suggesting that the two locations of the chasm where the men stood are peninsulas or narrow cornices.

But I rather suspect that the rims of the chasm are straight and parallel like the banks of a canal; plus extending sufficient distance in either direction to accommodate hundreds, maybe even thousands, of friends and relatives seeking to connect with their loved ones and BFFs over on the other side.

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If there is one good thing that can be said about the netherworld: it's the great equalizer. Political bullies like Kim Jong-Un, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Xi Jinping, Fidel Castro, Muammar Gaddafi, and Saddam Hussein, are powerless down below; they're just another nondescript skull in the gene pool.

Isa 14:9-10 . . Sheol from beneath is excited over you to meet you when you come. It arouses for you the spirits of the dead, all the leaders of the earth. It raises all the kings of the nations from their thrones. They will all respond and say to you: Even you have been made weak as we. You have become like us.

» Jesus once told a parable that advises folk it's wise to exercise kindness and generosity on this side of life because people on the other side will doubtless remember how you treated them. The thing is: folks should expect to be victims of a certain amount of cruelty on the wrong side of the netherworld because down there what's the point in being civil? So it's wise to build up a following of folk up here who owe you a favor so that when you arrive down there, you'll have some friends instead of only foes looking to get even.

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The book of life (Rev 20;12-15) was compiled prior to God creating even the very first particle for the current cosmos. (Rev 17:8) But I don't think it was compiled arbitrarily.

According to John 5:24 and Eph 1:13, it's necessary to hear + believe the gospel to get one's name listed in the book. Well; there's reason to believe that God is able to view the future. So way back before beginning to construct the cosmos, He looked down thru the centuries and foresaw everybody that was going to hear + believe. Having in hand all the necessary data needed for compiling the book, God went ahead and got it done and then turned His attention elsewhere.

Now, not everyone is going to be judged on the basis of hearing + believing the gospel. There are untold millions who never heard, nor will ever hear tell, of a Christ let alone his crucifixion for the sins of the world.

However, the beauties and complexities of nature, on earth and out in the void, speak loudly and clearly enough that the cosmos-- all its forms of life, matter, and energy --is the result of intelligent design. And the human conscience intuitively knows that there is going to be a reckoning. This is what's known as the everlasting gospel (Rev 14:6-7} and it has been preaching itself to men all over the globe from the very beginning. (Ps 19:1 6 & Rom 1:18-20 & Rom 2:14-16)

According to Rom 10:18, nature itself is the word of God; and accounted as a gospel. This is pretty cool because by nature's gospel, folks all over the globe-- both primitive and civilized --can be saved. In point of fact, ignorance is truly bliss in this situation because according to Heb 10:29-31, folks who hear + disbelieve Jesus' gospel are in greater danger of eternal suffering than those who know absolutely nothing about him.

(Can you just imagine the chagrin of an educated genius like Mark Zukerberg doomed to the depths of Hell while an illiterate aboriginal with a bone in his nose is carried up to the comforts of Heaven?)

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There's any number of ways the lost could be making their journeys to the netherworld. For example instead of being dragged underground by ghastly beings such as those described in post No.100, they may just fall down into the ground like water through a sieve.

That's not a ridiculous idea seeing as deceased folk leave this world as disembodied spirits. According to John 4:24 spirit is immaterial, i.e. it has no mass to speak of. Spirit's movement isn't impeded by solid materials like metal and dirt, or wood and stone.

And spirit takes up no space. For example the feral man of Mark 5:1-13 was possessed by a community of spirits who labeled themselves Legion, define by Websters as as the principal unit of the Roman army comprising 3,000 to 6,000 foot soldiers with cavalry. The legion of spirits that left that man went out and took up residence in a herd of about 2,000 swine. That's a pretty good example of how spirits take up no room in the physical world; nor do they crowd each other. All 3,000 6,000 of those spirits managed to fit inside the bodily cargo area of just that one guy. Just imagine the number of spirits that could fit into the passenger area of an SUV.

NOTE: Those spirits slipped right out of that man. There was no need to cut him open so they could evacuate.

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Job 14:14 . . If a man dies, will he live again?

Back in ancient times; men like Job were attuned to nature. In point of fact, Job was a very successful rancher; a guy who made his living working outdoors.

Every year he watched things die in the Fall and come back in the Spring. If only human life were like that; but alas, when people die they typically don't regenerate like the new leaves on a dormant maple tree.

HADES UPDATE: 211 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 13,166,400 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2022 _

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FAQ: When are people judged: as soon as they die or sometime later?

A: Judgment is somewhat different than condemnation.

For example: according to John 3:18 some folks are condemned while they live.

I'm sometimes asked how it is that the rich man in the story told by Luke 16:19-31 is in flames down in Hades when the judgment depicted at Rev 20:11-15 hasn't taken place yet. Well, he was condemned before he died. The meanwhile he's being held in custody awaiting the judgment phase of his condemnation which is where his just deserts will be decided.

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FAQ: Folks not found registered in the Lamb's book of life are sent to the second death per Rev 20:11-15. Will they be consumed by the brimstone and gone forever?

A: Adam was warned that were he to taste the forbidden fruit, he would die that very day (Gen 2:17) and he did, but not in a way readily apparent.

Up to that moment, Adam enjoyed perpetual youth, but upon tasting the fruit, he lost perpetual youth and began to age, i.e. his body became infected with mortality, which is a lingering kind of death rather than the kind of death where people drop dead to the floor of a sudden from strokes, bullets, bludgeons, or falls from a very high building down onto solid concrete.

In other words: Adam's death was an ongoing process that gradually wore him down to the point where his body finally gave out, and he passed away.

By comparing the language and grammar of any and all passages related to the second death, I think we can safely conclude that it too is a lingering death that apparently will be a perpetual process with no definite end.

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Luke 16:27-29 . . I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.

The five brothers would more than likely recognize Lazarus because he was laid at the rich man's gate; so that whenever they came over for a visit; there he'd be for them to walk past.

But I have to wonder just what exactly would Lazarus tell them about their deceased brother's circumstances down in the netherworld. Lazarus would likely tell the men about his own circumstances too.

When Jesus passed away on the cross, he didn't go up, instead he went down; likely to the section of the afterlife where Abraham was. Jesus called it paradise, which is translated from a Greek word meaning a park, e.g. New York's central park where folks can go for walks in nature, play soccer, bicycle, bird watch, boat, take in entertainment like concerts and events, even dine.

I've a notion there are lots of little children down in that park too and fully accommodated with plenty of interesting playground equipment, carousels, pony rides, possibly even a zoo, and quiet places here and there where kids can sit and listen to stories read to them from books. Who really knows for sure what to expect in paradise?

Lazarus might then compare all that to their brother's side of the afterlife.

I can well imagine that the men would be fascinated by Lazarus' tale but not fascinated enough to make a difference because Abraham assured the rich man that his brothers wouldn't believe Lazarus; and honestly: who in their right mind would; especially a tale coming from a no-account indigent whose body covered with sores very likely wasn't even given a decent burial but instead dumped without ceremony in a landfill somewhere?

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John 2:23-25 . . Because of the miraculous signs he did in Jerusalem at the Passover celebration, many people were convinced that he was indeed the Messiah. But Jesus didn't trust them, because he knew what people were really like. No one needed to tell him about human nature.

The Greek word translated "convinced" is the self-same word translated "trust". In other words; though people believed in Jesus, he did not believe in them.

Well, his unbelief was justified. The same people who believed in him due to his miracles are the very folks who later-on demanded his execution.

Oliver Cromwell-- who took the British throne away from Charles l, and established the Commonwealth --said to a friend: Do not trust to the cheering, for those same persons would cheer just as much if you and I were going to be hanged.

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The Lord wasn't looking for people's religion, nor was he looking for people's piety and/or conduct on Passover night. He was looking for just one thing, and one thing only: the blood.

That being the case, then had a Jewish family failed to apply the blood in the proper manner, their first-born son would've been slain. On the other hand; were an Egyptian family careful to apply the blood in the proper manner, their son would've been spared because the The Lord is neither biased nor prejudiced.

Along that same line; Jesus' blood will protect anybody and everybody who applies it in the proper manner because he died for all; no exceptions regardless of age, race, gender and/or religious preference. But many won't be protected by his blood, because they will neglect to apply it at all, let alone properly.

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Although church attendance is oftentimes thought of as worship, in reality it's not quite.

• John 4:21 . . Jesus declared: Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.

* Jerusalem is the Temple site-- the very hub of worship --yet Jesus ranks it below something far more important.

Real worship begins in the heart; as an attitude.

. John 4:22-24 . . A time is coming, and has now come, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.

The Greek word translated "worship" in that passage is proskuneo (pros koo neh'-o) which roughly pertains to kissing someone's hand-- fawning and/or crouching, and/or prostrating oneself in homage; i.e. reverence.

That all strongly suggests groveling; defined by Webster's as creeping with the face to the ground, i.e. crawling with the body prostrate in token of subservience or abasement; for example:

• Matt 5:3 . . Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

• Matt 5:5 . . Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

• Matt 5:9 . . Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

No amount of church attendance, nor any amount of liturgy, can substitute for the proper spirit in one's approach to God. If truth be known, there are countless thousands of folk attending church with whom God would be just as pleased if they went to a sports bar instead because their presence in church offends His sensibilities and makes Him nauseous.

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Well, since my baby left me,
I found a new place to dwell.
It's down at the end of Lonely Street at
Heartbreak Hotel

Although it's always crowded,
You still can find some room
For broken-hearted lovers
To cry there in their gloom

That song, by Elvis Presley back in 1956, was very popular; and useful for depicting some of the conditions folks might expect in the netherworld should they end up on the wrong side of things. For example: just as Elvis' hotel always has a vacancy, so the netherworld too.

• Prov 30:15-16 . . There are three things that will not be satisfied-- four that will not say, "Enough"

One of the four listed in that passage is Sheol, a.k.a. Hades.

And then there's "cry there in their gloom"

• Matt 13:40-42 . . As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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